SU 10 and New drivers not playing well with my system

jmig

jmig

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When the SU 10 loaded on my system and I updated the graphics driver to 516 all seemed well, until the next day. That is when I decided to see how far I could push it. Bad move. If it ain’t broke…

Now, the system will lock up and go dark for as much as 10-15 seconds. It comes back alive for a few seconds and then freezes and goes dark again.

I have been fooling with it all day, mostly lowering settings. I tried, drivers 517 (studio) and DX 11 & 12. It seems that if I use anything complex it goes dark. I was able, after clearing the Community folder to get the Cirrus 22 to work. I then tried the F-16, no go. Tried the Moody M-20, it worked. The PC-12 doesn’t work.

Looking at the CPU and GPU activity with outside apps shows them working fine. The GPU doesn’t get above 30% utilization and it still locks up. GPU memory usage is the same, no more than 50% or so. The same applies to the CPU utilization, temps, and system memory. They are all good.

I will try again tomorrow. I think I will watch some football. At least it won’t be my head getting banged up.
 
Sounds like the fun & games I've been having, too. If you want to re-set your graphics but the sim CTD's while launching, navigate to your LocalCache folder at: AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache and delete the UserCfg.opt file. The sim will create a new one during the next launch and you can then re-set your graphics options back to where they were before SU10.
 
Maybe you can find something in the windows eventviewer, more precisely the administrative events.

Good luck!

Priller
 
Also have a look at the Reliability monitor. I've found more info there regarding crashes than the Event Viewer.
 
Great... I finally get a chance to fly, and I get consistent CTD when loading the flight. Empty out the Community folder - no CTD. So something in there is now incompatible with SU10. Lucky for me, I don't keep a huge amount in there, but still reloading that folder five items at a time and restarting the sim until it crashes again is going to take some time. Fun stuff... :banghead:
 
Tom this is where MSFS Addons Linker comes in real handy. A single check or uncheck helps find the culprit. You can get it HERE!!
 
I may play with that later, but for now, I'm able to start a flight again. I have everything back except for a pair of replacement prop textures that I got here. My suspicion is that the new update causes a conflict between those and the massive prop texture replacement package:
https://flightsim.to/file/20719/vr-friendly-prop-mod-multi-pass

So my Community folder is down to 63 from 65, which is still plenty manageable.
 
I am still having the same issues. It is like there is no paging. I get 30 secs or less of flying and then 10-30 secs of freezing and dark, until it starts again exactally where it left off.

I have tried three different graphics drivers. Now back to the Studio 517 drivers. I even uninstalled FS2020 and reinstalled it.

I can't find any issues with the graphics card. It works fine for everything else.

I am considering the nuclear option. However, I am afraid of what I will lose in programs that require keys to operate.
 
jmig said:
I am still having the same issues. It is like there is no paging. I get 30 secs or less of flying and then 10-30 secs of freezing and dark, until it starts again exactally where it left off.

I have tried three different graphics drivers. Now back to the Studio 517 drivers. I even uninstalled FS2020 and reinstalled it.

I can't find any issues with the graphics card. It works fine for everything else.

I am considering the nuclear option. However, I am afraid of what I will lose in programs that require keys to operate.
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Hi, just wondering, DX11 or 12? And do you overclock? If so don´t ~ and you did all the updates for Windows and in M-soft Store?


HB
 
jmig said:
I am still having the same issues. It is like there is no paging. I get 30 secs or less of flying and then 10-30 secs of freezing and dark, until it starts again exactally where it left off.

I have tried three different graphics drivers. Now back to the Studio 517 drivers. I even uninstalled FS2020 and reinstalled it.

I can't find any issues with the graphics card. It works fine for everything else.

I am considering the nuclear option. However, I am afraid of what I will lose in programs that require keys to operate.
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Are you running Windows 11? If so, did you install the 22H2 update that came out last week? Saw some reports of Nvidia issues with that so I'm still running 21H2 until those are sorted.

If you did install 21H2, you can roll back the update and it might fix things.
 
Brytskiva "Hi, just wondering, DX11 or 12? And do you overclock? If so don´t ~ and you did all the updates for Windows and in M-soft Store?"

DennyA "Are you running Windows 11? If so, did you install the 22H2 update that came out last week? Saw some reports of Nvidia issues with that so I'm still running 21H2 until those are sorted.

If you did install 21H2, you can roll back the update and it might fix things."

I am running Windows 10. My computer will not update to Win 11 because I am running the BIOS Boot in Legacy mode. If I set it to UEFI boot, it will not boot into Windows. I have Windows on a M-Drive and I think it may be formatted incorrectly for UEFI. If I go to recovery, I have no UEFI settings.

The only overclocking is done by AI. I think it is Intel's Boost mode?

However, this is how it has been since I built the computer a year or two ago. It worked until SU10.

I updated everything I could. For some reason the latest WIN 10 update keeps failing to install. I don't know why. I ran a fixit app by MS. It didn’t work.

This is one of the reasons I am thinking of going nuclear and formatting the C-Drive. Maybe I can get it to install UEFI?

I went through an Optimizing guide I found online. It was for a RTX 3080. That didn’t help.

Looking at the numbers using the Developers FPS, HW Monitor and an App designed to check GPUs, noting seems out of the ordinary. The GPU never used more than 4.4 Gbts out of 10 Gbts memory. When the sim freezes the GPU and CPU numbers don’t change enough to stand out.

I even checked my Internet download speed. It is almost 1 GByte/Sec.

I am going to wait for the new graphics driver coming out this week. If that doesn’t fix it, I see no options but to format and start over.
 
I hate that "Windows rot" is still a thing. :( But I'll say, I was having stuttering issues in MSFS and DCS and a "back up the data and nuke it from orbit" complete reinstall fixed everything right up. Smooth as silk.

Shouldn't happen, though, and it's insane this hasn't been a priority for Microsoft to fix.

So sorry for the frustration. I've been there, and I empathize completely.

If you do decide to reinstall, I would imagine you can get Win 11 on there by:
* Back up data
* Put the latest Windows 10 or 11 build on a bootable USB flash drive using Microsoft's download tool or a third-party app like Rufus
* Set BIOS to UEFI
* Boot from USB
* From the Windows installer, remove the partitions from your boot drive, create a new partition, and install Windows 10 or 11 there
* Reboot and reinstall everything
 
Have you looked at your disk activity in Task Manager and particularly Resource Monitor when the problem occurs?

Tracking down why the Windows Update fails might also help.
 
Well, I guess I have been screwed and thrown to the curb. After uninstalling and reinstalling, Windows 10, MSFS2020, graphics drivers and anything else I could, I am still like a passed out drunk on the crub.

MSFS will freeze for up to 10-15 seconds. Everything freezes including the Developer's FPS counter. When it is running, I am averaging 40 plus FPS. Then everything stops.

I ran the GPU and CPU through a two-minute stress test and they passed. DCS runs fine. I loaded a VR game, and it ran just fine.

I don't know what else to do. At least I still have DCS to fly. I bought the South Atlantic map when it came out and never flew in it. Maybe, I will check out Argentina and the Falklands?
 
You might want to update all the drivers of the motherboard to the very latest ones so that both Windows and MSFS can call on the resources in the most efficient way.

Hope this helps!

Priller
 
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