sixstrings5859
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Looks very nice. Seriously making me think of having a ETO install. One of my favorite WWII aircraft. Thanks for all the time and effort in making these wonderful Bf-109's. Regards,Scott
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Team Daedalus Messerschmitt Bf109G-10 set released!
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Really outstanding work based on profound research!
But, I fear I got a little lost in all the different model variants especially regarding the G-10 model files.
I though about to re-map all my already installed planes to the newer models (and air files?).
Therefore, would it be possible to get a short description of the cfs-model files regarding their characteristics, particularly the tails?
For example I do not see any differents, at least visually, between model 01 and model 03.
But, I fear I got a little lost in all the different model variants especially regarding the G-10 model files.
I though about to re-map all my already installed planes to the newer models (and air files?).
Therefore, would it be possible to get a short description of the cfs-model files regarding their characteristics, particularly the tails?
For example I do not see any differents, at least visually, between model 01 and model 03.
The differences are often subtle but they are there. In the case of model 01 and model 03, model 01 has no radio antenna (fuselage mounted), a belly rack for drop tank, and the smaller early chin oil cooler. Model 03 has a radio antenna, no belly rack, and the later larger oil cooler.
Attached is an Excel spreadsheet that lays out the various attributes of all the G-10 models if you will find it helpful.
We're glad you like the models.
View attachment 68839
Attached is an Excel spreadsheet that lays out the various attributes of all the G-10 models if you will find it helpful.
We're glad you like the models.
View attachment 68839
Hi again Captain Kurt,
after a closer inspection I realized that remapping older textures to the "correct" new models is not always possible!
Obviously, for Rebuffats Bf-109 there are two basic fuselage texture sets (F109Gx.bmp and F109Kx.bmp) which are related to specific model files.
Remapping the new the new G-10 models to the "correct" older ones seems therefore not possible, the same for G-6AS.
Only the older G-6 textures can be remapped to the newer models as they use both the same set (F109Gx.bmp).
Would it be possible to get also a similar Excel file of the G-6 model files ?
In the meantime I will do further research on the different older model files by Rebuffat ...
after a closer inspection I realized that remapping older textures to the "correct" new models is not always possible!
Obviously, for Rebuffats Bf-109 there are two basic fuselage texture sets (F109Gx.bmp and F109Kx.bmp) which are related to specific model files.
Remapping the new the new G-10 models to the "correct" older ones seems therefore not possible, the same for G-6AS.
Only the older G-6 textures can be remapped to the newer models as they use both the same set (F109Gx.bmp).
Would it be possible to get also a similar Excel file of the G-6 model files ?
In the meantime I will do further research on the different older model files by Rebuffat ...
pstrany
Charter Member
Quick note....
Hi;
just wanted to point out that while I kept most of the texture file names, the texture mapping between Paul's original models and the new ones have very little in common. I had set out to try and keep the textures the same, but I ran into so many problems that in the end, I just mapped parts as need dictated, without trying to maintain a commonality with the older textures.
Captain Kurt has been instrumental in this project, both in being able to follow and work with the sometimes intricate mapping, and also in his knowledge of the 109. We are both people that like to get the details right, and this is why a large percentage of our models are unique to the individual "paint". Of the 84 aircraft we have completed so far, no more than 10 models share an interchangeability with another model. In the G-10s we came up with around 20 different items with at least two options each, which in combination could result in hundreds of variations in a model. Even in a more stable production model, such as the F-4, we came up with 15 items with at least two options each.
An example of the variations that could exist is the fact that in late-war 109Gs (G-6, G-10, G-12, G-14) the vertical tail came in at least 6 different "flavors" (variations); "classic" (short tail), tall tail metal, tall tail metal with tabs, tall tail wood, tall tail wood with tabs and tall tail with straight bottom. Even within these, smaller variations existed. Tall or short vertical tails could be found on on the G-5, G-6, G-10, G-12 and G-14.
So in short, the bad news is old paints won't easily move to the new models. The good news is Captain Kurt still seems eager to paint new models as fast as I can churn them out, and mav hasn't cried "uncle" in the scasm editing department, so for those interested, there will be many more 109s in the future...
Paul
Hi;
just wanted to point out that while I kept most of the texture file names, the texture mapping between Paul's original models and the new ones have very little in common. I had set out to try and keep the textures the same, but I ran into so many problems that in the end, I just mapped parts as need dictated, without trying to maintain a commonality with the older textures.
Captain Kurt has been instrumental in this project, both in being able to follow and work with the sometimes intricate mapping, and also in his knowledge of the 109. We are both people that like to get the details right, and this is why a large percentage of our models are unique to the individual "paint". Of the 84 aircraft we have completed so far, no more than 10 models share an interchangeability with another model. In the G-10s we came up with around 20 different items with at least two options each, which in combination could result in hundreds of variations in a model. Even in a more stable production model, such as the F-4, we came up with 15 items with at least two options each.
An example of the variations that could exist is the fact that in late-war 109Gs (G-6, G-10, G-12, G-14) the vertical tail came in at least 6 different "flavors" (variations); "classic" (short tail), tall tail metal, tall tail metal with tabs, tall tail wood, tall tail wood with tabs and tall tail with straight bottom. Even within these, smaller variations existed. Tall or short vertical tails could be found on on the G-5, G-6, G-10, G-12 and G-14.
So in short, the bad news is old paints won't easily move to the new models. The good news is Captain Kurt still seems eager to paint new models as fast as I can churn them out, and mav hasn't cried "uncle" in the scasm editing department, so for those interested, there will be many more 109s in the future...
Paul