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cptroyce

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This may be a bit OT but I could use some tech advice.

I have been playing Call of Duty war sim recently as well as flying OFF.

I have a PC built for gaming. CoD has been running fine since I bought it.

However today, it began stuttering and freezing up after a minute or two.

What's this due to and how do I correct it?

Thanks in advance,

Royce
 
Now I don't consider myself a guru at this stuff, or even a fair hand. But (ready for this one ) it sounds like a problem of your DVD Player screwing up the data searched for in COD. OFF while also intense is mostly off your HD. Do you have any other DVD Based games ? theory easily disproved. :kilroy:
 
As always if something worked fine, and now doesn't, check for what changed. Something did. Check for overheating (GPU more likely), more programs running than you need, lack of disk space, disk errors as Gimpy says. Did you leave your PC on for a long time with no reboot maybe? New install of a program? New update for something?
 
Could be overheating as Polovski says. Easy to open up the case for a quick check that dust hasn't clogged fans etc.
 
Yep,

Could be a heat thing. Could be due to a recent change in software more likely. The 2o dollar question is, are your other games running ok?? If so, and you've done any updates (or if you have Windows Update set to "auto"), I'd be looking real hard at your drivers....particularly graphics or sound drivers.

No harm in taking the side off the tower to see if the cat crawled in there. If that's the case, a can of compressed air will work. A good quick blast, aimed strategically at the the area just under his tail ought to do the trick.


Cheers,

Parky
 
One thing that come to mind is a possible loose heat sink on the processor. The "glue" that holds the heat sink to the processor can work fre over time. It is not really glue, but a heat disapating adheasive.
 
Thanks all..I have changed nothing since the game ran well and then didn't.
The heat seems to be the recurrent theme. I can see the fan at the top of the tower running, so it's not that. Perhaps I had the PC on for a while before I ran the game; I really don't recall. It's a relatively new machine, but I can open it up and check for dust as well.

Regards,
Royce
 
Most Machines especially ones custom built such as your's, feature multible fans. A fan at the top of the case ( noticed) and at least one more, over the processor. The easiest way to determine a heat problem, on such a NEW machine, is firstly is there a cat in the house. If YES, buy a few cans of compressed air, they'll work wonders, at clearing animal dander from fans.

In the comfort of your own home, where there's NO kids, or cats around.
There's No Reason on earth you can't run without the side cover.

While you're at it don't touch, just Look. . are all the Fans Spinning

You can also aim a room FAN at the open side, does it increase the amount of time before lockup ?

Many things You can do, before you call for HE$$$LP !:kilroy:
 
What are your specs and how long have you had your comp? How long were you playing the game with no problems before they started? Did you upgrade video drivers recently, and if so, tried the older ones? Do you have any system temp monitors or something that tells you the temp of your GPU? If all looks well, how about a fresh reinstall of the game?
 
Once again thanks all - I don't have a cat and no one in the house is "allowed near" my PC :icon_lol:

It is a few months, old built for gaming. It has Nvidia 8600GT SLI'd and 2.5 GB of RAM. Dual Core CPU and whatever else makes sims run as they are supposed to run.
I had built it for the coming of OFF P3; but also not to have to "worry" about any other game I might want to try.

ADDENDUM: I tried OFF and CoD 4 and 1 today it all seems to be OK. So I guess I don't know what happened?

Also, does anyone know the current version of the GPU mention above drivers?

Regards,
Royce
 
When I've had problems in the past with a PC slowing down, if its not been due to heat problems, its sometimes been due to hard drive access times - do you have a lot of programs installed on it? have you also tried to defragment your HDD? with data stored in different sectors of your drive it slows it down. defragmenting moves all the files around so theyre more organised & faster to read by the drive heads - it can make all the difference!:jump:
 
Legion- Thanks. I opened the tower and checked the fans..all working fine. Not speck of dust in the case.

I did defrag the game folders with a defrag program. However I have about 105 GB of space used of 500 GB HD. FS9, FS9 special set up, CSF3, OFF, MAW, PTO, CFS2,
CoD 1, CoD 2, CoD 4 and minimal "Windows nonesense".

With the PC only a few months old, I didin't think about defragging yet. To your point perhaps I should :ernae:

Regards,
Royce
 
With the PC only a few months old, I didin't think about defragging yet. To your point perhaps I should :ernae:

Regards,
Royce

It is recommended you de frag every day.. especially if things are 'dying' .

Evertime I get a crash.. I defrag.. it takes no time if there's enough room and you havent got a months worth of fragmented files!!
my 'defragger' is set to run every day some time when I'm not going to be using it....:wiggle:
 
Actually if you leave your computer alive, when you retire for the evening, and merely turn off the monitor. As a part of windows, you can schedule the CPU to defragment itself every night, without any input from you. :kilroy:
 
Defragging should be part of any regular maintenance schedule. I do mine about every week or so. However, a fragmented drive is rarely, if ever, the culprit when it comes to the kind of problems cpt royce has described above. The drive would have to be SEVERELY fragmented in order to even create any stuttering, let alone create a complete lockup.

There are some rather effective 3rd party utilities that do a far better job of defragging your drives than the built in Winblows utility. I don't think any of 'em are capable of getting a "CPU to defragment itself every night" though. In fact, I don't think I've ever heard of a fragmented processor. That one is new to me. I suppose if one were to submerge their CPU in liquid nitrogen and then throw it at the wall, that might render it somewhat "fragmented".

Cheers,

Parky
 
Bugger the hard drive. Where do I get this CPU defragmenter ? I want one. Sounds pretty cool :costumes:
 
Parky- Thanks for that Nvidia link..if nothing more I can notice an appreciable difference in the graphics. I believe the drivers that came with the PC were one or two removed from the current.

Regards,
Royce
 
One thing I always try which has sometimes worked is try a previous restore point in XP.

This worked for me once when a piece of adware installed itself on my web PC and slowed thins down.

I always regulary make an restore point after installing something new and the PC seems to still work ok. They do not always work but waey to try.

Cheers MarkL
 
Defragging a hard disk once a week (or especiallly once a day!!!) is *far* too often. When defragging, the machine reads and re-writes data on the disc in order to more efficiently order it. While it's true there is a definite advantage to keeping fragmentation down, there's a point of diminishing return. There's almost no benefit from doing it more than once every month (or even every few months) that isn't *far* outweighed by the risks.

One exception might be a person who is constantly installing and uninstalling stuff (say, someone like myself, who works with lots of different stuff on a certain machine; evaluating different programs, utilities, drivers, etc). But, if you just install stuff once and leave it, a drive *won't* become fragmented for quite a long time in normal usage. Disks become fragmented - over time - by filling space left empty after previous deletions is filled in with new stuff (where the 'new stuff' outsizes space left for a single unit of 'ex-stuff', but will fit over the collective space abandoned by several 'ex-stuff' units). New machines hardly ever get fragmented just from adding stuff, especially with big hard disks - until you start deleting/adding/deleting/adding...

Cleaning: The canned air works, for sure - but I usually recommend against it, and I'll tell you why: You can darn well blow something into (or worse, under) a place it shouldn't go and cause a problem. For one thing, some PC fans aren't sealed well at all on the back side, and I've seen several instances where dust, blown forcibly off a heat sink (without first removing the attached fan) caused the dust to blow inside the back of the fan and cause the fan to become noisy. Left untended, this fan will fail much sooner.

Yes, the dust needs to go - use a vacuum; that way everything is coming *out*, not being flung all over inside the case. They make inexpensive, static-safe micro-vacuums just for this purpose. I personally use a regular full-sized vaccum with a small, static-safe nozzle and brush to loosen dust. All the cards should be removed and fans removed where possible from heat sinks - allowing the heat sink to be cleaned of dust without it getting inside the fan bearings (as above). If it's done often enough, there's not usually enough build-up to warrant tearing things apart for this - but then again, most people let it go far too long. It should be done once a month.

Oh, and the term "CPU" also applies to the chassis itelf, not just the processor. Most of us who've been around PC's for a long time use the terms interchangably; in fact, you'll seldom hear us refer to the CPU (chassis) as the "tower", which seems to be the trend these days. Most people I work around say "CPU" to mean the chassis, and "processor" to mean the...well, the processor :costumes:

And before anyone gets all whacked out of shape at me for disagreeing with the 'resident guru(s)' or whatever - I lurk here regularly and I've seen it happen. All stated opinions in my post are my own $.02., based on my own (27-year) background with computers and electronics. Your mileage may vary; this is America. You are free to act in as ill-advised a manner as your pocketbook and free time will permit.
 
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