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Very Strange looking DC-3 cockpit, Just Flight Sim

Flame-Prop

Charter Member
What kind of bloody blueprints did Just Flight use to make their DC-3??? Was browsing through the images, and the cockpit looks like it would scare off clusterphobics, thats how small and cramped it is..... That leads to the next thing, the cockpit windows when you slide them open they are meant to be slide back not forwards o_O
 
Flame-prop that's why muliple images are viewable on their website, so if you don't like it you don't have to buy it!!

Also please note we don't accept that sort of attack in these forums, especially with profanity!
 
Looks quite cramped IRL, so JF probably got it right :engel016:

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Flameprop, as Stiz said, that cockpit is actually very small. I also sat in a DC3 cockpit once and I was surprised. Compare:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-F-cBF5ZbQ&feature=related

There a some sequences that clearly show this. The two pilots in the vid must have been quite short, if I may add.

In FSX you can adjust your viewpoint a little by moving the camera and/or zooming out, by the way. That helps finding a comfortable spot.

Cheers,
Mark
 
Flame-prop that's why muliple images are viewable on their website, so if you don't like it you don't have to buy it!!

Also please note we don't accept that sort of attack in these forums, especially with profanity!


Sorry about that, I was very confused when I saw the deafuly DC-3 with soo much leg space, and Uiver Team's DC-2 had a very nice space there. Was the DC-3's cockpit modified a numerous ammount of times? There are lot of variants I though of the very very original model cockpit. Did also see MAAM-SIM' DC-3 with a more realistic "sized" cockpit

Didn't mean to sound like a raging thunderstorm, but It's an Ozzy thing
 
Flameprop, as Stiz said, that cockpit is actually very small. I also sat in a DC3 cockpit once and I was surprised. Compare:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-F-cBF5ZbQ&feature=related

There a some sequences that clearly show this. The two pilots in the vid must have been quite short, if I may add.

In FSX you can adjust your viewpoint a little by moving the camera and/or zooming out, by the way. That helps finding a comfortable spot.

Cheers,
Mark

Thanks for posting that, Mark.
I had seen that somewhere else, and have been wanting to watch it again.
Great aviation documentary.
 
Its tight in real life yes, but nowhere near that tight... JF's got the dimensions right, but forgot to consider eyepoint... in fs its a camera, not a human eye... the field of view is wider, so things look bigger. In JF's, it looks far too tiny. Plus yes, the windows are wrong. I don't like it myself... its shiny yes, its detailed, but not in the right ways, and the texture mapping is a nightmare, and if this post is considered an 'attack' oh well.
 
Here's another one, note the short distance between the front windows and the pilots, and the deeply recessed instrument panel. I could imagine that this is very difficult to model in a sim aircraft to make it look right. If you stick close to the original, you have problems with the viewing angle and complaints that thing are hard to see or look distorted, if you don't you'll hear people whine that it's unrealistic. Oh well!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QSv3Gs4FHU&feature=related

Love the plane anyhow. Hope Vertigo releases their version one day.

Cheers,
Mark
 
Sorry about that, I was very confused when I saw the deafuly DC-3 with soo much leg space, and Uiver Team's DC-2 had a very nice space there. Was the DC-3's cockpit modified a numerous ammount of times? There are lot of variants I though of the very very original model cockpit. Did also see MAAM-SIM' DC-3 with a more realistic "sized" cockpit

All a matter of the field of view and the eyepoint. In the real DC-2 you only see the front window if you look straight ahead; if you want to see the gauges you will need to look down. In Fs we can zoom out to get a wider view which isn't possible in real life. That cockpit really is very small!
 
Sorry about that, I was very confused when I saw the deafuly DC-3 with soo much leg space, and Uiver Team's DC-2 had a very nice space there. Was the DC-3's cockpit modified a numerous ammount of times? There are lot of variants I though of the very very original model cockpit. Did also see MAAM-SIM' DC-3 with a more realistic "sized" cockpit

Didn't mean to sound like a raging thunderstorm, but It's an Ozzy thing

I appreciate the apology:applause:
 
And if you think that is small, try sitting in a B-17! Man, I would have never thought they were that small inside.
 
Flameprop, as Stiz said, that cockpit is actually very small. I also sat in a DC3 cockpit once and I was surprised. Compare:

Cheers,
Mark

Very interesting video...Amazed at the crude maintenance procedures they take down there to fix
and airplane. Low over head for maintenance = cheap plane tickets one would think.

At any rate, that cockpit room about the same as front seat/dash of a VW beetle (BUG). Pilot/copilot
pretty close to one another, At close quarters in the cockpit, you must feel like you worked out but want to smell like you didn't. I wouldn't want to pull the pilots index finger if he asked. LOL. :icon_lol:
 
And if you think that is small, try sitting in a B-17! Man, I would have never thought they were that small inside.

That's the first thing I thought of when I started reading this thread. I've sat in both the B-17 and DC-3, but I remember the DC-3 being a much tighter fit.
 
Very interesting video...Amazed at the crude maintenance procedures they take down there to fix
and airplane. Low over head for maintenance = cheap plane tickets one would think.

At any rate, that cockpit room about the same as front seat/dash of a VW beetle (BUG). Pilot/copilot
pretty close to one another, At close quarters in the cockpit, you must feel like you worked out but want to smell like you didn't. I wouldn't want to pull the pilots index finger if he asked. LOL. :icon_lol:

rofl rofl !!

About the crude maintenance procedure, did you guys notice how the engine was fixed?? The motor on the little trolley and the workshop with the power outage? I'm not laughing at that, mind you. The engines are surely in capable hands and these guys know the dope on these machines. It's just the conditions under which they have to keep them working. Says a lot about the ruggedness of the design. I'm sure you could forget operating a 737 under these conditions.

Cheers,
Mark
 
And if you think that is small, try sitting in a B-17! Man, I would have never thought they were that small inside.


My favorite the B-17 :kilroy: A2A Simulations gave plenty of leg space, it was kind of them. While wondering though the Images, it's like King sized Lazy boy recliner chair...... a dream cloud
 
just to add i know for a fact a man over 6' 2" cant fly in the DC-3 very comftrable.. when this tub was made the tall guys were 5' 8 to 5' 10"
 
That seems to be the case with many old aircraft from that time, and even later.
I once squeezed my frame (I'm 6ft2) into an AN-2 Colt cockpit. Thought that thing was designed for dwarfes.

On the other hand, the real T-6 was quite comfortable, and some later navy fighters like the F4U or F6F as well as the P-47 are reported to be quite roomy.

Cheers,
Mark
 
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