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Way OT: Trains

michael davies said:
You cant beat a good Kriegslok for functionality and usability :), I saw some in the 80s whilst transiting the Berlin corridor, whilst steam is old and dirty the Kriegslok is a wonderful piece of engineering built to last with minimal maintenance, compared to the then current diesels in the GDR, steam was still a good viable source of motive power and lasted into the 90s I believe, even in West Germany it lasted much longer than the rest of Europe,
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Quite right, Michael!

In the GDR "Reichsbahn" , the last regular steam engine service ended in 1988, wheras the last steamer of the west-german "Bundesbahn" quitted in 1977.
The Bundesbahn class 52 Kriegslok were struck off in the mid-fifties, due to severe boiler damages (some of those hasty welded boilers simply blew off...), but the east-german Reichsbahn couldn't go without them. So they were fitted with new high-perfomance boilers and some other refinements and were classified as 52.80.

With 52 8177, we have another survivor of this class here in Berlin, operated by another club, and this one visited our yard too:
http://mkb-berlin.de/bogena.htm
(guess who's this guy at the steamer's front spoiling pic #67... :engel016:)
 
Wild Bill Kelso said:
Quite right, Michael!

In the GDR "Reichsbahn" , the last regular steam engine service ended in 1988, wheras the last steamer of the west-german "Bundesbahn" quitted in 1977.
The Bundesbahn class 52 Kriegslok were struck off in the mid-fifties, due to severe boiler damages (some of those hasty welded boilers simply blew off...), but the east-german Reichsbahn couldn't go without them. So they were fitted with new high-perfomance boilers and some other refinements and were classified as 52.80.

With 52 8177, we have another survivor of this class here in Berlin, operated by another club, and this one visited our yard too:
http://mkb-berlin.de/bogena.htm
(guess who's this guy at the steamer's front spoiling pic #67... :engel016:)
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Thanks for the info, I've got several books on German locos, mostly the Eisenbahn Journal series, I can hardly read / speak German (something I want to begin to learn next year) but the pictures are great as are the technical drawings sometimes supplied, I have to say that the German books are the most concise and detailed books in all my collection, far better than most UK or USA stuff, expensive ! bit for an engineer and modeler they're just excellent, sadly the only Kriegslok book I have is the EK Verlag which details the Baureihe 42 and 50 Crosti boiler variants. As an aside and you might know being in the railway industry as such, does the 95 use the same boiler as the 44 and some of the 01 / 03 types ?, it seems the builders decided on a pretty standard boiler pretty early on and kept to it.

Kindest

Michael
 
empeck said:
I have Vista Home Premium 64bit. Rail Simulator out of the box runs fine, MK1 patch too, after MK2 patch it doesn't start at all. Funny thing, it ran perfectly on Vista 32bit (on the same computer).
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Yup. That's exactly what I was running before switching to Windows 7.

Stupid question. You don't just have to reset the graphics settings before going in do you? I seem to remember reading something about that on the forums at railsim.
 
michael davies said:
Personally I prefer the Baureihe 43 and 44 with their bigger boilers, much more imposing, I wonder if any one makes one in 7mm O gauge ?, would make a nice large model, not virtual of course but a nice piece of modeling none the less.
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ROCO has 43s and 44s for H0.
http://www.roco.co.at/index.php?id=130&Anfangsposition=27&artikelnummer=62320
http://www.roco.co.at/index.php?id=130&Anfangsposition=27&artikelnummer=62321

Back in the day I had a 56 series for TT. Got used quite much, but in the end I always preferred E-Loks.



Wild Bill Kelso said:
This 52 8029 (built in 1944) is owned by a club originally based at Röbel/Müritz:
http://www.hei-na-ganzlin.de/site10a.htm
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Noted for the next visit to the Müritz. Haven't been there in years.
 
Bjoern said:
Noted for the next visit to the Müritz. Haven't been there in years.
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You may get dissapointed!
Due to the fact that the track from Ganzlin to Röbel is cut off yet, only ruins and crab are left at Röbel.
Their active rolling stock now is based at Berlin-Lichtenberg!

@ Michael:
I completely agree to your judgement on the EK-Verlag books!
In my eyes, their releases about the specific engine classes are the best available, and we were proud to contribute some details and photographs of our Diesel-Kleinlok Kö 0128
http://mkb-berlin.de/details/mkb_01.htm
to their awesome book about the class of those tiny shunters:
http://www.ekshop.de/shop/article_0...r-Große.html?shop_param=cid=167&aid=00000217&

Concerning the boilers:
The class 95 (former prussian classification: "T20") was built in 1922-1924 and their boilers were unique. They kept them (partially equipped with oil burners) until drawn out of service in 1984.
The later Reichsbahn classes 03 and 41 ('medium' 18t weight per axis) shared the same boilers with slight differences (such as sandboxes).
The boilers of the classes 01 and 43/44 ('heavy' 20t per axis) had much the same dimensions but weren't interchangeable.

When the GDR Reichsbahn started their boiler refitting programme in 1958, the boiler type "39E" was built to refit the classes 03, 39 and 41, a second type "50E" dedicated to the classes 50.35, 52.80 and 58.30.
A third boiler type "01E" was used to refit the 01 class, afterwards named 01.5. Although it was planned to fit the 44 class with those boilers too, high-performance Diesel engines replaced them in the heavy freight train services.
 
Wild Bill Kelso said:
You may get dissapointed!
Due to the fact that the track from Ganzlin to Röbel is cut off yet, only ruins and crab are left at Röbel.
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Dang!

Ah well, I still have Lärz as a place to go if I want to drool over old technology. I wonder if they still have their Su-22...

Their active rolling stock now is based at Berlin-Lichtenberg!
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Lichtenberg...one of the creepier parts of Berlin. :icon_lol:
 
IanP said:
Yup. That's exactly what I was running before switching to Windows 7.

Stupid question. You don't just have to reset the graphics settings before going in do you? I seem to remember reading something about that on the forums at railsim.
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I've reinstalled everything and now MK2 works fine :) It seems I had wrong version of PhysX installed.

I have to move to Railworks anyway.
 
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