I've been working on replacing the stock droptanks models. I've got all the british and american models done. When I started on the p-80's tank I noticed it had a cockpit file. I figured it must mine or somebodys mod so I pulled the folder off my stock backup dvd. same thing? Why did Microsoft make a cockpit for a droptank?
WHAT ??? Droptank Cockpit ???
- Thread starter Mark Rude
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May I venture a guess? Someone intended to put in an ejection seat and it went unfinished.
Murray Cod
Charter Member 2011
suicide mission perhaps?
or maybe someone was a fan of "Dr. Strangelove, or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb"
MC
or maybe someone was a fan of "Dr. Strangelove, or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb"
MC
Guided missiles.
I also was wondering if this was a attempt at creating a guided weapon. A guided weapon would have to have a cockpit of some kind. I've been trying all sorts of shortcut key combos trying to switch to this cockpit view but so far all I've done is waste my time and crash my PC a few times. Its also strange that is the only droptank not mapped to the standard bombs sheets. Its mapped to the P-80 main texture.It took me a couple of hours to figure out how Microsoft textured it.
Starspeeder_3000
Charter Member
The file header is also different from other .m3d files as well: MCFS0109 vs. the standard MFSBCFS3. Also you may notice that the cockpit is different from the stock P-80 and there are more indicator lights and a few more switches which are missing from the stock VC.
Starspeeder_3000
Charter Member
After some digging it looks to me like the stock P-80 VC got short changed (no surprise there) and the "alternate" VC model looks to be the alpha version which got scrapped.
Starspeeder_3000
Charter Member
Look at this...
Here is a reference picture pointing out the differences for you all to see. Keep in mind these are my best guesses:
1. Fuel and landing gear warning lights, or speed brake light.
2. Gyro and turn bank instrument failure lights.
3. Emergency fuel system light (it conflicts with the turn coordinator gauge, the gauge appears to be in the wrong place).
4. Gunsight gyro selector switch.
5. Parking brake handle (blue is the stock, red is the alternate, the blue handle is in the correct position).
6. Fire warning and engine overheat lights.
7. Elevator tab neutral indicator light.
8. Landing gear lever (the lever is placed further down toward the base of the seat. The stock VC lever position is more correct).
Here is a reference picture pointing out the differences for you all to see. Keep in mind these are my best guesses:
1. Fuel and landing gear warning lights, or speed brake light.
2. Gyro and turn bank instrument failure lights.
3. Emergency fuel system light (it conflicts with the turn coordinator gauge, the gauge appears to be in the wrong place).
4. Gunsight gyro selector switch.
5. Parking brake handle (blue is the stock, red is the alternate, the blue handle is in the correct position).
6. Fire warning and engine overheat lights.
7. Elevator tab neutral indicator light.
8. Landing gear lever (the lever is placed further down toward the base of the seat. The stock VC lever position is more correct).
FireStorm II
Charter Member
yes....some kind of guided weapon!
could the modeller have had this in mind?
After the war, Burke returned to Southern California and picked up his hot rodding pursuits where he had left off. While looking for car parts, he found that airplane belly tanks were plentiful in surplus yards. They could be bought for about $35 apiece--just a fraction of the cost of designing and building a streamliner body from scratch. The U.S. government and aircraft engineers had spent a lot of time and money designing these tanks to be lightweight and optimally aerodynamic at very high speeds. Now all of Uncle Sam's war-time engineering efforts were going to pay dividends to hot rodders.
Burke's first belly tank lakester was made from a 165 gallon P-51 Mustang tank, just like the ones he'd seen during the war. Burke ran the car in 1946, reaching a speed of 131.96 mph, powered by a Mercury V-8. The next year, Burke returned with a car made from the wing tank of a P-38 Lightning. At 315 gallons, the P-38 tank was much larger than the P-51 tank. He placed the driver in the front and the engine in the rear. This time, everything fit inside the tank except for the wheels and a small windshield for the driver.
could the modeller have had this in mind?
After the war, Burke returned to Southern California and picked up his hot rodding pursuits where he had left off. While looking for car parts, he found that airplane belly tanks were plentiful in surplus yards. They could be bought for about $35 apiece--just a fraction of the cost of designing and building a streamliner body from scratch. The U.S. government and aircraft engineers had spent a lot of time and money designing these tanks to be lightweight and optimally aerodynamic at very high speeds. Now all of Uncle Sam's war-time engineering efforts were going to pay dividends to hot rodders.
Burke's first belly tank lakester was made from a 165 gallon P-51 Mustang tank, just like the ones he'd seen during the war. Burke ran the car in 1946, reaching a speed of 131.96 mph, powered by a Mercury V-8. The next year, Burke returned with a car made from the wing tank of a P-38 Lightning. At 315 gallons, the P-38 tank was much larger than the P-51 tank. He placed the driver in the front and the engine in the rear. This time, everything fit inside the tank except for the wheels and a small windshield for the driver.
Starspeeder_3000
Charter Member
Just FYI the "alternate" VC model is identical to the one seen when viewing the aircraft from the external view.
On a side note, yes guided weapons were being looked into for CFS3 but dropped as they would have taken too long to impliment properly. You may notice several stock weapons that are not used in the stock game and would have used a guidence system, namely the U.S. Azon smart bomb, the German FX 1400 (Fritz X) anti-ship missile, and X-4 air-to-air wire-guided missile.
On a side note, yes guided weapons were being looked into for CFS3 but dropped as they would have taken too long to impliment properly. You may notice several stock weapons that are not used in the stock game and would have used a guidence system, namely the U.S. Azon smart bomb, the German FX 1400 (Fritz X) anti-ship missile, and X-4 air-to-air wire-guided missile.