Aha
thank you....that's it!. There's a "roaming" folder layer now that I'd never seen. Next trick if you please............my stick.....it works when I turn on the computer, tests fine but when I load either CFS3 or OFF the stick goes dead, limp.....the buttons all work but there's no FF or motor tension in the stick at all....and that limp state remains after I close the game....but's back to normal after a restart without a game loaded.....any thoughts all?? thanks