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WOW-Sleeping on the job???

maybe they had a BIG windows 7 launch party the night before.
 
Heard that on the news earlier today. They're investigating and thinking it most likely was due to fatigue. It'll be interesting to hear the outcome of the investigation.
 
I just heard they were having an 'engaging discussion' that caused the distraction and ultimate deviation from the approach path
 
Remind me to take the bus next time they are at the joystick.....LOL
 
With the amount of time most commercial pilots are required to fly it's not surprising to find they are napping at the wheel. It's pretty scary.
 
The reports I have read are that it was a "very animated discussion" and that the CVRs have been taken for analysis.

Whatever, big whoops!
 
I have heard of some new luxury cars that now have a system that actually senses when the driver is dozing off, and gives an alert to wake you up. This seems like something that would really have a good use in an airliner, I think.

Falling asleep on the controls of an airliner is obviously something to be avoided and rectified, but I can't say I really blame them. These can be VERY boring flights, especially long-hauls over the Pacific/Atlantic, where you're spending several hours flying on autopilot over nothing but seemingly endless ocean. I know that, when I do it in FS, I begin to nod off myself! :icon_lol:
 
BA Second Officers were on about £16k a few years ago, when I applied (while earning £12k). First Officers were about £20k.

There's a very well known saying in commercial aviation that it costs you far more to get your license than you'll ever make back in salary. Until you get a long-haul left-hand seat, it still rings worryingly true.
 
Well - if they dont like it then they could choose another profession - even postmen see the houses get smaller - just horizontally (not meaning they sleep on the job LOL)
 
I love it but could never afford to be a professional/commercial!
 
Wasn't there a similar case a while ago?

Pilots dozed off and overshot a hawaiian island by an hour or so.
 
How the blithering blazes anyone could sleep through a SELCAL call is beyond me. The one I caught while crossing the Atlantic on the flight deck of a BAW B772 even made the Captain jump!
 
We got this visitor when our "pilots" did not hear french contollers trying to call them!!

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What happened is wrong, but to me it all stems from the relationship between the FAA and their client, the airline industry. Flight time and duty time limits are a joke and do nothing to improve safety.

I've had copilots fall asleep and I'm sure I've nodded at times off as well. For sure, I've made plenty of flights when tired, when I wasn't as sharp as I should be to hand fly a night ILS to minimums or go into a short runway with a big crosswind.

What this crew did is wrong, but they'll be punished way beyond what they should. The airlines and the FAA will remain in bed with each other and nothing will change about the root of the problem.

steve
 
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