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WWII Trainers?
- Thread starter Kiwikat
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What I said in my first post covers that one too. I want one that is like A2A or Vertigo Studios quality.
I know there's interest in these two planes. The Texan was one of Alphasim's best sellers. I would think it would sell better than most if not all of the more obscure WWII planes that have been coming out lately.
Felixthreeone
Charter Member
I agree 100%. It is a gaping hole in FSX aircraft of that era. I particularly like the new racers myself, but am an all-around fan of the WWII trainers...
BTW the T-28 isn't a WWII era trainer. One of my (now retired) Naval Aviator friends had that as his first aircraft at Pensacola in the early 70's.
I know a guy in North Pole Alaska that has one, though at $5:65 a gallon not sure he flies it much.
WOZZA's T-6 is pretty nice!
T
I know a guy in North Pole Alaska that has one, though at $5:65 a gallon not sure he flies it much.
WOZZA's T-6 is pretty nice!
T
Maybe so, but I want a T-6 more anyways. It is my favorite aircraft. I would be happy with a T-28 though too.
Nothing against Wozza's freeware model, I just want a high quality payware version. For some reason there's no larger scale plastic T-6 model either... :mixedsmi:
I just find it very odd that neither of these planes have been redone in high fidelity for FSX.
There's a very simple answer to your question.
To make a high-end FSX model of the T-6 is not worth the effort because even if sales were really good, you'd only get back a small fraction of what you put into it.
I've been working on the SkyUnlimited Texans and Harvards for FS9 and FSX since 2006. I'm in the process of recovering from a very bad virus attack. Some key modeling files were lost and need to be re-created. Once that's done I hope to add the custom sounds I put into the FS9 versions into our FSX models and offer it as a free upgrade. Once that's done it's wrap up time.
Overall I'd have to say the last 5 years as a developer have been pretty disappointing. While we were spared being the victim of a flame war or a smear campaign, we never got any support for our efforts at being innovative either. Our efforts to honor the WASP pilots and help their museum went belly up with the change of museum directors. Our FS9 texture painting contest was such a flop we never bothered with trying for a FSX version. Comments like,"None of the current offerings come close to meeting my expectations." are anything but motivating.
John MacKay
aka X_eidos2
To make a high-end FSX model of the T-6 is not worth the effort because even if sales were really good, you'd only get back a small fraction of what you put into it.
I've been working on the SkyUnlimited Texans and Harvards for FS9 and FSX since 2006. I'm in the process of recovering from a very bad virus attack. Some key modeling files were lost and need to be re-created. Once that's done I hope to add the custom sounds I put into the FS9 versions into our FSX models and offer it as a free upgrade. Once that's done it's wrap up time.
Overall I'd have to say the last 5 years as a developer have been pretty disappointing. While we were spared being the victim of a flame war or a smear campaign, we never got any support for our efforts at being innovative either. Our efforts to honor the WASP pilots and help their museum went belly up with the change of museum directors. Our FS9 texture painting contest was such a flop we never bothered with trying for a FSX version. Comments like,"None of the current offerings come close to meeting my expectations." are anything but motivating.
John MacKay
aka X_eidos2
skyblazer3
Charter Member
John,
Your Sky Unlimited Texan was the first payware aircraft I ever bought. I had just come back to flight sim after being away since 1998. I spent a lot of time flying IL-2 and LOMAC.......
I wanted to learn to fly FSX in the aircraft that my father learned to fly in, so I bought your Texan. Payware was something new to me, but I was totally satisfied with it. My first 50 or 60 hours in FSX were in that beautiful Texan, and it really helped me get back into the sim. This was before I flew online.... and I can still remember the satisfaction of completing cross country flights in an empty sim-world with that aircraft. It was beautiful, it flew right, and it sounded great. It just felt like a Texan should feel.
I've never flown a T-6 in real life, but I do have 9 hours in a PT-17 Stearman, and I've been around Texans, and I think your T-6 was great. Having flown the Stearman, your T-6 felt like I imagined the next step of pilot training should feel.
Thanks for a wonderful aircraft. I'm afraid that was several hard-drives ago, and although I still have install files kicking around somewhere, I have not tried putting it in the sim in many years -- perhaps I should give it a go again; it was a joy to fly.
Keep your head up, and keep flying aircraft that you love.... This last friday I got to hang out with Korean war double-ace Ralph Parr.... he told me, "keep flying, it is a worth-while pursuit."
Cheers,
Chris
Your Sky Unlimited Texan was the first payware aircraft I ever bought. I had just come back to flight sim after being away since 1998. I spent a lot of time flying IL-2 and LOMAC.......
I wanted to learn to fly FSX in the aircraft that my father learned to fly in, so I bought your Texan. Payware was something new to me, but I was totally satisfied with it. My first 50 or 60 hours in FSX were in that beautiful Texan, and it really helped me get back into the sim. This was before I flew online.... and I can still remember the satisfaction of completing cross country flights in an empty sim-world with that aircraft. It was beautiful, it flew right, and it sounded great. It just felt like a Texan should feel.
I've never flown a T-6 in real life, but I do have 9 hours in a PT-17 Stearman, and I've been around Texans, and I think your T-6 was great. Having flown the Stearman, your T-6 felt like I imagined the next step of pilot training should feel.
Thanks for a wonderful aircraft. I'm afraid that was several hard-drives ago, and although I still have install files kicking around somewhere, I have not tried putting it in the sim in many years -- perhaps I should give it a go again; it was a joy to fly.
Keep your head up, and keep flying aircraft that you love.... This last friday I got to hang out with Korean war double-ace Ralph Parr.... he told me, "keep flying, it is a worth-while pursuit."
Cheers,
Chris
Thanks for those encouraging words Chris. I never knew folks were having that kind of experience with our work.
I spent Friday visiting with Merle Fister, the subject of one of my aviation videos. Seems every time I talk with the man I learn something new about him. He was telling me about the Tuskegee airmen flying top cover for him on many of his missions.
I spent Friday visiting with Merle Fister, the subject of one of my aviation videos. Seems every time I talk with the man I learn something new about him. He was telling me about the Tuskegee airmen flying top cover for him on many of his missions.
Prowler1111
Charter Member 2011
..We are converting one of Top Flight Simulations Vultee BT-13 into a full FSX add on, enhancing and adding features, it´s a work in progress with NO release date..
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Best regards
Prowler
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Prowler
Ahhh...the old Vultee Vibrator. It'll look good on Sharpe Field in my Tuskeegee Practice Fields Scenery. The government did some bomber training there for a while, but I don't believe any bomber squadron from Tuskeegee was stood up during the war.
PT-13's were used at Moton Field.
Jim
PT-13's were used at Moton Field.
Jim
Bjoern
worst developer ever
Solution: Make your own.
That's why I'm a paying customer... I work on computers for 9 hours a day at work. I'm not going to spend the rest of my day working on computers too. Those of you who do, all the power to ya.
There have been far more obscure paywares released lately, so I was just curious why nobody's targeted these ones. :mixedsmi:
delta_lima
Charter Member 2015
How fortunate that the majority of the FS dev community, even the payware folks, operate on a cottage industry basis, on their spare time.
Let me go on a limb and suggest the issue is not a shortcoming with the aforementioned models and instead misplaced sense of entitlement. The frequency of the I/my personal pronouns in the above quote speaks volumes.
Put another way, how is it that the guy who flies 747s for a living can find his T-6 simulation "expectations" met, but the guy on a computer keyboard cannot?
dl
I agree with most of what has been said by a few people here the only way you will get something to your standards is to do it your self.
Many developers including some payware people do it as a hobby and do models that they WANT to do so it does'nt matter whether you are paying or not.
Many developers including some payware people do it as a hobby and do models that they WANT to do so it does'nt matter whether you are paying or not.
Thats all very well if you have the spare time . I have 3 kids, wife, work etc. The little spare time I have is devoted to actually flying in the flight sim or picking up on the latest sim news on my favourite flight sim fourms. I haven't had my FSX opened for at least a week due to work/family pressures (I'm typing this a long way from FS PC). I am not sure even if I have the skill and patience (plus my own expectations are probably too high) to even build a flying shed.
Maybe if I keep away from fourms and flying my sim I might find time to build a wing by 2014, although I would probably need to refer back to forums to ask what , how etc
Somebody here has to be the customer or there would be no payware add on industry
..back to topic and yes I would love to see a very high quality T-6/Harvard but it have to be good to better Warick Carter's T-6. A FSX native T-28 (and Chipmunk - yes I know not WW2, but close enough) would be great too.
Don't forget that Piglet is coming out with a PT-19 and John Terrell was/is working on a PT-22.
Maybe if I keep away from fourms and flying my sim I might find time to build a wing by 2014, although I would probably need to refer back to forums to ask what , how etc
Somebody here has to be the customer or there would be no payware add on industry
..back to topic and yes I would love to see a very high quality T-6/Harvard but it have to be good to better Warick Carter's T-6. A FSX native T-28 (and Chipmunk - yes I know not WW2, but close enough) would be great too.
Don't forget that Piglet is coming out with a PT-19 and John Terrell was/is working on a PT-22.
That is just plain wrong. I have paid for and am COMPLETELY satisfied by many payware products. :mixedsmi:
I don't understand why people are so touchy about wanting payware versions of planes that have been done by freeware authors. Some people want to pay the money for a better simulation.
