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Ant's Winjeel released!

rlaycock said:
Hi
How do you install this into P3d V3.2? I would like to install it with all my other add-ons which all go into F:/Prepar3DV3/ SimObjects/Airplanes/
I cant have it on c:/ users etc as it is a relative small SSD with limited space.
when ever I change the directory to F:/ I get a DOS box with some argument error.
I tried using the P3Dv2 installer and changing the path to F:/Prepar3DV3. This installed OK but the compass and autopilot would not work.

I also have FSX on a different boot and it installed fine and the compass and autopilot worked fine, so I know how it should work

Thanks in advance if you can help
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Hi Bob ;-)

I had a few abortive attempts as the installer prompts for a folder but doesn't seem to pick up your SimObjects folder from P3D/registry. I took a look at what the batch file does and then did it in a manual way (sort of).

1) I [first] created a folder in P3Dv3 root called "3rd party".
2) I then pointed the installer at that.
3) The installer should create or add an entry to "add-ons.cfg" in Program Data\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3.
4) If the installer doesn't create the correct folder structure in "3rd Party", the copy over from wherever it *did* install it. It should look like this:

3rd Party
-- Ants Winjeel
-- -- Content
-- -- -- Effects
-- -- -- Simobjects

It sounds barking mad to do all this, but the advantage is that you can enable/disable add-on aircraft installed in this manner via the P3D in-sim top menu (they show in "Add-ons"). Not that you'd ever want to disable the marvellous Winjeel!

My Winjeel seems to work fine from that location - with no gauges issues and with all sounds (hi Naki!!).

Adam.

EDIT: The ADI needs the "Gyro Insts" switched on to work.
 
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Adamski_NZ said:
Hi Bob ;-)

I had a few abortive attempts as the installer prompts for a folder but doesn't seem to pick up your SimObjects folder from P3D/registry. I took a look at what the batch file does and then did it in a manual way (sort of).

1) I [first] created a folder in P3Dv3 root called "3rd party".
2) I then pointed the installer at that.
3) The installer should create or add an entry to "add-ons.cfg" in Program Data\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3.
4) If the installer doesn't create the correct folder structure in "3rd Party", the copy over from wherever it *did* install it. It should look like this:

3rd Party
-- Ants Winjeel
-- -- Content
-- -- -- Effects
-- -- -- Simobjects

It sounds barking mad to do all this, but the advantage is that you can enable/disable add-on aircraft installed in this manner via the P3D in-sim top menu (they show in "Add-ons"). Not that you'd ever want to disable the marvellous Winjeel!

My Winjeel seems to work fine from that location - with no gauges issues and with all sounds (hi Naki!!).

Adam.

EDIT: The ADI needs the "Gyro Insts" switched on to work.
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Thanks for the reply Adam
I tried several times to install into F/: P3D_Adons but it always comes up with a DOS box and an error message about some invalid argument (As normal I did not take much notice of the message)

Never actually tried it in F/: P3D root however. I will give that a go tonight.
Also thanks for the tip re the "Gyro Insts" switch. Perhaps this is on by default in my FSX install, so I never checked it when I installed into P3D V3 using the P3D v2 installer.
Please note it installed ok using the P3D V2 option, (pointing to P3D V3 folder) All the sounds etc. worked but I had no ADI or autopilot. I will give that a go 1st tonight as it sounds easier that the other option.

Any idea why this one add-on does not want to install into P3DV3/Simobject/Airplanes/ like all the hundreds of other add-ons we have?

Thanks
Bob
 
rlaycock said:
Thanks for the reply Adam
I tried several times to install into F/: P3D_Adons but it always comes up with a DOS box and an error message about some invalid argument (As normal I did not take much notice of the message)

Never actually tried it in F/: P3D root however. I will give that a go tonight.
Also thanks for the tip re the "Gyro Insts" switch. Perhaps this is on by default in my FSX install, so I never checked it when I installed into P3D V3 using the P3D v2 installer.
Please note it installed ok using the P3D V2 option, (pointing to P3D V3 folder) All the sounds etc. worked but I had no ADI or autopilot. I will give that a go 1st tonight as it sounds easier that the other option.

Any idea why this one add-on does not want to install into P3DV3/Simobject/Airplanes/ like all the hundreds of other add-ons we have?

Thanks
Bob
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If there is an error message then it would help greatly if you would post it.

Why does it not want to install into P3DV3? Because Lockheed Martin said so. The question is why don't all the other add-ons follow Lockheed Martin's recommended distribution method? Trust me, it would have made my life a lot easier to just install it to the root folder but silly me decided to follow LM's direction.

Whatever you do, do not install the P3DV3 Winjeel into the root P3D folder. The file structure is different and this should not be done. If you want the Winjeel in the root P3D V3 folder then select the P3D V2 version and point the directory to the P3D V3 folder.

I will explain exactly what happens with the P3D V3 installer.

1. The install location will default to Documents/Prepar3D v3 addons
2. You can change this to any location you like, just don't make it the root P3D folder. You could make a new folder F:p3D addons for example and install the Winjeel there.
3. The installer will create a registry key for this location HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Ants Airplanes\Winjeel\P3Dv3_path
4. After the files have been installed a batch file will be run.
5. The batch file will look in the registry for the Prepar3D folder and then run P3D with some command line entries. The command line entries will tell P3D where the Winjeel has been installed and P3D will add this information to it's add-on.xml file so P3D can find the Winjeel.
 
Winjeel V120 patch available

The latest patch is available from www.antsairplanes.com/downloads/AntsWinjeelV120patchbeta.zip

If there are no problems with this patch then the full version will be distributed to retailers.

The patch should be installed after installing the full retail version (the patch will not work for the demo model, a new full version will be released shortly for the demo). Basically though, whatever version (V100 or V110) and with whatever patches you have already installed the V120 patch will completely update it.

Changes are:
- 4 new repaints
NX107PJ US version of VH-OPJ (A85-439)
A85-404 modern orange highlights
A85-444 modern camo
A85-364 prototype paint on vintage model
- Fixed rudder trim centre command
- Stores tailwheel locked/unlocked from last used. If aircraft loads in the air tailwheel will be locked.
- Changed prop model switching conditions
- Made exterior canopy glass more visible
- Made engine sounds when canopy or windows open more audible
- Fixed texturing problem on underside of air intake in P3D
- Fixed spelling and various text errors in Animation Manager
- Fixed wing leveller button in autopilot 2D gauge
- Changes to information in prefs and engine_wear save files
- Fixed various XML syntax errors in models and gauges
- Added systems text to this manual
- Fixed left over text in this manual
 
Naki said:
I can't get the engine sound to work in P3Dv3...tried the patch, redownloaded from vendor etc (i have the full aircraft). Works fine in FSX. Any ideas?
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Please download the V120 patch:

www.antsairplanes.com/downloads/AntsWinjeelV120patchbeta.zip

If the sound still doesn't work then in the Winjeel press shift+3 to show the Animation Manager, select Preferences and click on Save. Then go to My Documents/Ants Airplanes/Ants Winjeel and send the file P3D_prefs.txt to me. (support at antsairplanes.com)
 
Maury2008 said:
I do not know if this radio can operate as ADFreceiver
The knob on the left allows you to select the ADF function, and frequency can be set to an NDB, but the HSI don't show nay indication.
I 'm wrong?
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That radio will not operate as an ADF (there is no indicator for it anyway). It is just for show.
 
Anthony - thanks for the fixes! I don't see that blob on the engine intake now :)

However - my SHIFT-3 Control Panel is all messed up: the background pic never goes away. Does anyone else get this?

I'm going to do a complete/clean reinstall of the Winjeel to see if it clears up.

Talking of which ...

When installing for P3DV3, the installer says it will install to the USERS folder. If so, why do we get the option to point to a folder? I really don't want add-ons installing in my C:\ drive as that's my OS partition which I want to keep small for backup purposes etc. Also - my main P3D install is on a separate SSD drive, so I'd like verything there, if possible!

Adam.

UPDATE: A reinstall fixed the CP :).
Just re-reading my "installer" comments. This time, I just let the installer put things where *it* wanted (though I don't like too much stuff in my USERS folder). All worked fine including the update. From memory, however, I seem to remember that if you point the installer to anywhere in the P3D folder (Root, "Simobjects/Airplanes" or "3rd Party") then the installer batch file errors and you end up with some stuff in USERS and some wherever you tried to install to).
 
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anthony31 said:
Winjeel V120 patch available

The latest patch is available from www.antsairplanes.com/downloads/AntsWinjeelV120patchbeta.zip

If there are no problems with this patch then the full version will be distributed to retailers.

The patch should be installed after installing the full retail version (the patch will not work for the demo model, a new full version will be released shortly for the demo). Basically though, whatever version (V100 or V110) and with whatever patches you have already installed the V120 patch will completely update it.

Changes are:
- 4 new repaints
NX107PJ US version of VH-OPJ (A85-439)
A85-404 modern orange highlights
A85-444 modern camo
A85-364 prototype paint on vintage model
- Fixed rudder trim centre command
- Stores tailwheel locked/unlocked from last used. If aircraft loads in the air tailwheel will be locked.
- Changed prop model switching conditions
- Made exterior canopy glass more visible
- Made engine sounds when canopy or windows open more audible
- Fixed texturing problem on underside of air intake in P3D
- Fixed spelling and various text errors in Animation Manager
- Fixed wing leveller button in autopilot 2D gauge
- Changes to information in prefs and engine_wear save files
- Fixed various XML syntax errors in models and gauges
- Added systems text to this manual
- Fixed left over text in this manual
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Thank You !!! :applause:
 
Adamski_NZ said:
When installing for P3DV3, the installer says it will install to the USERS folder. If so, why do we get the option to point to a folder? I really don't want add-ons installing in my C:\ drive as that's my OS partition which I want to keep small for backup purposes etc. Also - my main P3D install is on a separate SSD drive, so I'd like verything there, if possible!
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You can change this directory to anything you like wherever you like. Just don't make it the Prepar3D v3 folder.

It will default to the location C:\Users\<user name>\Documents\Prepar3D v3 Add-ons because this is a folder that Prepar3D v3 has created as the default folder for add-ons (although no one but me seems to use this)

I have installed the Winjeel to a folder called figgleworth and once to a folder F:Airplanes. Put it anywhere you like (except the Prepar3D v3 program folder).

If you want to install the Winjeel to the Prepar3D v3 folder like any other aircraft then select Prepar3D v2 as the installer.
 
I have updated the patch V120 so please download again if you have already installed it.

www.antsairplanes.com/downloads/AntsWinjeelV120patchbeta.zip

It fixes these issues:
- gauge not running properly in Windows XP.
- 2 textures in the P3D v3 version not installing to the correct location.

It is also about 40MB smaller (so 112MB in size) as I have reorganised some things in the installer which allows the generated file to be smaller (which is how I stuffed up the 2 textures not installing to the correct location).

When I am satifisfied that this patch is working correctly I will rename it as V121 and upload the full installer programs to the retailers (again the full installer will be smaller than previous versions due to the new way I organised the files in the installer program).
 
anthony31 said:
You can change this directory to anything you like wherever you like. Just don't make it the Prepar3D v3 folder.

It will default to the location C:\Users\<user name="">\Documents\Prepar3D v3 Add-ons because this is a folder that Prepar3D v3 has created as the default folder for add-ons (although no one but me seems to use this)

I have installed the Winjeel to a folder called figgleworth and once to a folder F:Airplanes. Put it anywhere you like (except the Prepar3D v3 program folder).

If you want to install the Winjeel to the Prepar3D v3 folder like any other aircraft then select Prepar3D v2 as the installer.
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I'll keep mine in C:\ for now, but may reinstall when the little patches have bedded down!

Just one question, though ... I think LM also recommends putting add-ons in "3rd Party" (but nobody likes it there either LOL). This folder lives in P3D root - but well away from the usual Simobjects location. Would installing it in "3rd Party" cause problems? If so, I'll just put the Winjeel in a folder outside, but on the same drive/SSD.

Adam.


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Adam-

Looking forward to Anthony's reply as well... My C:\ is an OS only M2 drive, and I too woul like to uninstall and have all on the S:\ drive (SSD) I use for P3D. Additionally, I'd like to keep it tidy under P3D\3rd Party if that would work.....

Fingers x'ed Anthony!

Best- Carl
 
LM recommend the installation directory for add-ons be either:

%ProgramFiles(x86)%\<Company Name>

or

%USERPROFILE%\Documents\Prepar3d v3 Files\add-ons

Using the later pathway will mean add-ons will be automatically detected which is what I used although the way I have set it up means that you can install the Winjeel to any folder you like.

I don't have a "3rd party" folder in my Prepar3D folder and I can't find any mention of it in the SDK so I'm unsure how the Winjeel would work in there. I install files into effects folder and Simobjects so does the file structure in "3rd party" mirror that? Or does the file structure in "3rd party" look more like the one below? ie Individual addon folders with each folder having an add-on.xml file? If so then you can point the installer to the "3rd party" folder and install the Winjeel there. If not, then I wouldn't recommend it as I don't know anything about this folder (and can find no mention of it).

The file structure that Winjeel version P3D v3 will install is this:

Ants Winjeel
Content
Effects
Simobjects
add-on.xml (this file tells P3D the file structure)
P3D_install.bat (a batch file run during the install process to update the add-ons.cfg with the file location)
Uninstall Ants Winjeel P3Dv3.exe


The add-ons.cfg file is found here:
C:programData/Lockheed Martin/Prepar3d v3

This is what my add-ons.cfg looks like:
[Package.0]
PATH="F:\Winjeel\Ants Winjeel"
TITLE=Ants Winjeel
ACTIVE=true
REQUIRED=false

As you can see it points to the Ants Winjeel pathway, from here P3D will read the add-on.xml and from there it will read the necessary files.

If you want to keep the P3D v3 Winjeel in the Prepar3D folder then you could create a new folder in the Prepar3D folder (maybe call it add-ons) and install the Winjeel to that and should work fine in that case.
 
winjeel_120_29_1350.jpg


The proof of the pudding!!! The blemish-free Winjeel running from outside the P3D root folder ;-)

Apologies, Anthony - the installer works quite correctly and with no errors in the batch file. I'm not entirely sure what I did wrong last time, but I'm sure it was "user error". The "3rd Party" folder, it turns out, was created by an IRIS addon. As IRIS also did some of the default P3D aircraft, I presumed that folder was some sort of "official" location. I do remember lots of discussion about the pros and cons of installing outside P3D root, but they probably didn't refer to a *specific* location at all - I must have made that up!

Anyway ... for the benefit of others, this was my procedure:

1) Create a folder on the same drive/same level as the root P3D folder - ie. [your drive here]:\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3Dv3_Addons
2) Point the installer (and subsequent patch installers) at that folder.
3) That's it! Everything should be automatically set up, but if you want to disable the Winjeel temporarily, you can access it from within P3D in Options/Add-ons.

Apologies again for complicating what was, after all, quite a simple operation!

Adam.
 
VERSION 1.21 AVAILABLE

This patch is functionally identical to the last V1.20 patch but I thought I'd just change it to V1.21 to make it clear it is the last patch. I don't expect any more patches will be needed in the near future (fingers crossed).

Patch for full payware version:

www.antsairplanes.com/downloads/AntsWinjeelV121patch.zip

Demo version has been updated as well:

www.antsairplanes.com/downloads/AntsWinjeelDemo.zip

Links are also available on the product page:

www.antsairplanes.com/winjeel.html

I will now send the full installers to the retailers so within the next few days you can download the full installer from your retailer account.
 
Hello Anthony,

I would just like to write a most warm and a truly deserved "thank you" to you for creating this aircraft for our flight sim platforms.

You went out on a limb for an aircraft that is not that well known to the outside world of Australia and I am truly grateful for that. For you have recreated an aircraft that is a such a joy to fly and the attention to detail is outstanding!

I take my hat off to you, and again I can not thank you enough.

Forever grateful,

Tim.
 
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