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A2A WOPIII P-47 Out Now!!!

I am thinking about buying the P 47 but can’t decide whether to get the Accu-sim pack or not. Is it worth the extra cash?
I have tried the Accu-sim pack for the Stratocruiser and found it to much hassle (I know this will upset the purists, but I like to just jump in and fly).
So if I didn’t get the Accu-sim would I be missing out on a lot, after all the pack is the cost of another aircraft!
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IanHenry said:
I am thinking about buying the P 47 but can’t decide whether to get the Accu-sim pack or not. Is it worth the extra cash?
I have tried the Accu-sim pack for the Stratocruiser and found it to much hassle (I know this will upset the purists, but I like to just jump in and fly).
So if I didn’t get the Accu-sim would I be missing out on a lot, after all the pack is the cost of another aircraft!
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I bought it and am very happy I did, but I have one question. If you bought Accu-sim once, do you have to re-buy it for the next accu-sim compatible add-on from A2A?
 
The answer to which is yes, from what I understand. Because Accu-Sim is built to the engine and airframe, rather than being a single module that works with all airframes and engines, the Accu-Sim version for each aircraft will be an additional purchase.

I'm sure one of the A2A team will be along to confirm it or slap me round the ear shortly for getting it wrong, but that's how I understand it.

Regarding the question of "is it worth it", that's a decision only you can make. I like realism, I like having to look after aircraft and getting bitten when I get it wrong, so for me it's superb. If you don't want to do that however, and prefer to jump in and scream around the sky at full power all day then no. It does bring a massive amount of realism to the sim, but the reality is that you have to look after an aircraft properly for it to work and that's not everyone's cup of tea.
 
Hi

I bought it without the Accusim pack first and enjoyed flying around for about 10 hours without to start with. But then as Ian says the temptation of such realism got too much and now im pleased I have the accusim. :wiggle:
 
Although the P-47 look very nice indeed, if you are going to have to buy a new Accu-sim package for every aircraft A2A produce, it is going to get very expensive if you want all their products with all the “bells and whistles”
At almost £41 including Accu-sim this makes this aircraft more expensive than FSX can currently be bought for. It makes me wonder how much the forthcoming F4 Phantom will cost.
Having said that I will probably buy the P-47 because I have always been satisfied with previous A2A products.
Not that I want to appear tight fisted (ok I am a little) it’s just I wonder where all this increasing cost of FSX products will end? I also notice that a lot of people on this forum have bought this aircraft and appear very satisfied with it so maybe it is just me!
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IanP said:
The answer to which is yes, from what I understand. Because Accu-Sim is built to the engine and airframe, rather than being a single module that works with all airframes and engines, the Accu-Sim version for each aircraft will be an additional purchase.

I'm sure one of the A2A team will be along to confirm it or slap me round the ear shortly for getting it wrong, but that's how I understand it.

Regarding the question of "is it worth it", that's a decision only you can make. I like realism, I like having to look after aircraft and getting bitten when I get it wrong, so for me it's superb. If you don't want to do that however, and prefer to jump in and scream around the sky at full power all day then no. It does bring a massive amount of realism to the sim, but the reality is that you have to look after an aircraft properly for it to work and that's not everyone's cup of tea.
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I'll admit that I didn't do my homework then and I don't regret getting Accu-sim, but I'll be much more selective on further purchases from A2A.
Don't get me wrong. I think that the P47 from A2A is by far a superiour product than alot of add-ons out there, but $60 odd $$$ is not cheap.
That of corse is only my opinion. I'm sure alot of people will disagree with me.

Ben
 
I have tried the Accu-sim pack for the Stratocruiser and found it to much hassle (I know this will upset the purists, but I like to just jump in and fly).
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I have to agree here, for me the stratocruiser is a bit to much for just me, however the good thing about accusim is that if you just want to have a fun flight and just firewall the throttle and keep it there, just turn it off, if you want a more serious flight, turn it back on :)
 
I have noticed an increasing number people asking (here and other forums) why they need to purchase Accusim again if they have the B377 version. The B377 is a vastly different beast than the P-47. The Accusim module for the P-47 took many months of research, development and testing. Any subsequent versions of Accusim for other aircraft will take similar research, development and testing periods.

The massively increased research, programming and testing periods practically double the development time of any aircraft addon. We understand that not everyone wants to have accurately modeled engine and systems operation with corresponding failures for making mistakes. Many people just like the concept of a quality 3D model with quality textures that they can just load up and fly. It is for this reason the Main 3D model with standard engine and systems management is sold separately from the complex engine and systems management that Accusim adds. Without Accusim the Wop3 P-47 pack is priced at a competitive rate. So stating that the price of the Wings of Power 3 P-47 is overpriced at $60 is inaccurate as the actual cost of the Wings of Power 3 P-47 is $35. The $60 price tag is a bundle price for two separate products that individualy took a lot of effort to develop and are thus priced accordingly.

Please don't think of Accusim as a one size fits all product that will (or should) work with any aircraft. Accusim is a brandname we use at A2A for the complex separate expansion pack that is uniquely tailored to accurately simulate the engine and systems for its corresponding aircraft addon.

Just for clarification.

Wings of Power 3 P-47 Razorback:
Price $34.99 ($27.99 with the rebate for owners of the older FSX Razorback)

Accusim Expansion Pack for the P-47
Price $29.99

Bundle deal for WoP3 P-47 with Accusim Expansion Pack
Price $59.98 ($52.98 with the rebate for owners of the older FSX Razorback
 
ICDP said:
Please don't think of Accusim as a one size fits all product that will (or should) work with any aircraft. Accusim is a brandname we use at A2A for the complex separate expansion pack that is uniquely tailored to accurately simulate the engine and systems for its corresponding aircraft addon.
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And thats the way I want to see it be done. I want 'as real as it gets' and the last thing I want to see is is a 'generic', 'one size fits all' Accusim for all aircraft. A2A your doing it right. Thanks for the individual attention you pay to each aircraft you offer, it absolutely shows.

This A2A Razorback is a fantastic model just by itself and well worth the price for all the work that has gone into her, but, when combined with it's very own Accusim Expansion Pack it is elevated to a level that no other aircraft, addon or otherwise, can compare to. The bar has been raised and the benchmark set for all others to try to achieve. This achievement alone single handedly assures a future of very high quality, realistic aircraft for FSX from any modeler expecting their addon aircraft to be considered at the level of what A2A can offer. Thats good for all of us. Thanks A2A.

Worth the price? You bet it is!


Codeseven
 
Outstanding

A2A, thank you for another outstanding addition. :trophy:

The new P-47 aircraft package is quite an improvement on the FSX native Solo package ~ and that's saying something because the previous version was top notch. The fact that you folks improved an already stunning plane just shows how much passion you have for our hobby.

I also picked up the Accusim package for the P-47. Wow! Now I know what the B.377 owners who added the B.377 Accusim package have been raving about. I've always tried to fly authentically in FS with regards to engine management and so on but I've learned over the last couple of nights I still have a ways to go when it comes to high performance engines. I was surprised when I got back from a flight where I was pushing the engine, but thought I was keeping it all "in the green", and had an engine rated as in poor condition. I really didn't want to explain that to the crew chief. LOL! Then there's things like the windshield fogging up (here I am thinking where'd all that weather come from ~ doh) and learning how to use the oxygen system at the higher altitudes. I'm truly enjoying the education and the new challenges.

I'm looking forward to your future WoP III offerings. Keep up the great work.

Rick
 
OK I gave in and bought the bloody thing and Accu-sim. I really am going to have to work on my will power.
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LOL - yeah - I tried to resist buying the Accusim element because i have tried to cut back on my FS spending but...
 
I'm just glad there's somebody out there willing to take the time and energy to manifest their dreams and make that available to others. I think we are quite lucky a product of this quality even exits.
 
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I was surprised when I got back from a flight where I was pushing the engine, but thought I was keeping it all "in the green", and had an engine rated as in poor condition. I really didn't want to explain that to the crew chief. LOL!
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hehe i wouldnt take that little readout to be the final say about how your engine is :costumes:

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stiz said:
hehe i wouldnt take that little readout to be the final say about how your engine is :costumes:

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Yip I also picked up a rough engine and it also said "Excellent"

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Edit: I think it was the Turbo I hurt.

KUDO's to the A2A Team for a outstanding add-on. I'm sure I'll buy your next Project you are working on.

Thanks

Ben
 
With regard to the cost with Accusim, it seems justified given the complexity and development that went into making the systems simulation. Now I have to say that I don't have the P-47 (yet) and am not sure whether I'll get AccuSim.

However I do recall some of the arguments against another payware developer's products that didn't even have clickable cockpits, let alone any real systems simulation. The argument there was that the price (and if I recall, it wasn't far off from A2A's products with AccuSim) was too steep and for that kind of money, it should have a more developed cockpit functionality and systems simulation.

Well, it looks like we have it now so from that standpoint, I guess I can't argue with the asking price of the combined aircraft and AccuSim.
 
A must have, got to save my pennies, just going to be a whil:ernae:e.
 
expensive or not expensive depends on your budget
worth the price, depends on what you want in an add-on
but quality wise, I have to say that this is the best, by far
I think it is cheap for what you're getting...
 
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