Cirrus N210MS
Charter Member
amazing how microsoft updates work or they kill your computer i had to reinstall every thing Watch out 
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Windows 10 updates are dangrous
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You can always export your registry before editing it so that you can import the backup if the effects are not what you were looking for.
Mick
SOH-CM-2025
Yes, just open the registry in Regedit (look for it in Accessories\System tools (or maybe under Administrative Tools; I may have moved the link on my menu), on the File menu click Export and save it to the desktop (or wherever you want.) At least thta's where it is on my W7pro rig.
Somehow I'm not surprised to read that W10 is another in that very long line of Windows versions that can seriously mess up yourt system with updates.
Well, to be completely honest, I never had any problems with Windows 10 updates. I must admit though that after updating normally to two new builds, I always do a clean install with the latest build, like I've just done with build 1803.
I do run Windows 10 Enterprise though, which seems to be a lot more stable than the Home or Professional versions.
Priller
I do run Windows 10 Enterprise though, which seems to be a lot more stable than the Home or Professional versions.
Priller
Jafo
SOH-CM-2024
After being a site admin on a site engaged in manipulation of the Windows shell [GUI] as well as its replacement with alternate shells, etc for the past 17 years, I am well versed in the potential for [seemingly] catastrophic failure one can have when delving into parts of an OS you are not experienced/comfortable with.
That being the case, the only responsible advice is to warn that the inexperienced CAN have issues if they drop the ball whilst altering kernel/core settings.
You should never presume competence. If they brick their OS to the point where they panic and "reinstall Windows" and succeed in losing work/data/whatever they'll be less than thrilled..
Did you know Windows even has an error that reads "You must reinstall Windows" [it occurs when one particular dll isn't found and yet otherwise the OS is complete and functional].
That being the case, the only responsible advice is to warn that the inexperienced CAN have issues if they drop the ball whilst altering kernel/core settings.
You should never presume competence. If they brick their OS to the point where they panic and "reinstall Windows" and succeed in losing work/data/whatever they'll be less than thrilled..
Did you know Windows even has an error that reads "You must reinstall Windows" [it occurs when one particular dll isn't found and yet otherwise the OS is complete and functional].
After being a site admin on a site engaged in manipulation of the Windows shell [GUI] as well as its replacement with alternate shells, etc for the past 17 years, I am well versed in the potential for [seemingly] catastrophic failure one can have when delving into parts of an OS you are not experienced/comfortable with.
That being the case, the only responsible advice is to warn that the inexperienced CAN have issues if they drop the ball whilst altering kernel/core settings.
You should never presume competence. If they brick their OS to the point where they panic and "reinstall Windows" and succeed in losing work/data/whatever they'll be less than thrilled..
Did you know Windows even has an error that reads "You must reinstall Windows" [it occurs when one particular dll isn't found and yet otherwise the OS is complete and functional].
I agree, especially on the "seemingly". Then again, in these times, there is no excuse for not having backups of your files or settings. With all the shenanigans running about, with all the hacking/phishing and so forth about, one owes it to oneself to have backups of all things that you value.
I also never presume competence, but it is fair to expect IT literacy. This is the 21st century after all.
And indeed, Windows (every version) has several errors that seem catastrophic, but are actually pretty easy to solve. if you know your way around that is.
Priller
Bjoern
worst developer ever
Tried to install the 1803 update on my desktop PC on saturday.
First attempt: Failure after the first reboot. Ran a Microsoft FixIt after that which essentially reset Windows Update.
Second attempt: Failure after the first reboot.
Third attempt: Failure after the first reboot while trying to force the update through the Media Creation Tool.
Fourth attempt: Failure after the first reboot. Considered throwing my PC out of the window, especially since the update easily installed on my laptop (W10 Home x64).
At least the error code contained a bit more info ("failed to boot into safe mode" or so). Googled it and found something relating to disconnecting other disk drives. Got an idea, booted into the BIOS and selected direct boot from the Windows partition instead from the bootloader on the Linux partition.
Attempt number five ran through without a hitch.
Still undecided whether it's worse that I'm out of the loop regarding Windows updates or that Microsoft decided to pull the same crap it did on MBR BIOS on UEFI systems now (being too incompetent to handle other bootloaders than Windows').
P.S: 1803 is surprisingly snappy, despite all that new future-computing-VR-bloat.
First attempt: Failure after the first reboot. Ran a Microsoft FixIt after that which essentially reset Windows Update.
Second attempt: Failure after the first reboot.
Third attempt: Failure after the first reboot while trying to force the update through the Media Creation Tool.
Fourth attempt: Failure after the first reboot. Considered throwing my PC out of the window, especially since the update easily installed on my laptop (W10 Home x64).
At least the error code contained a bit more info ("failed to boot into safe mode" or so). Googled it and found something relating to disconnecting other disk drives. Got an idea, booted into the BIOS and selected direct boot from the Windows partition instead from the bootloader on the Linux partition.
Attempt number five ran through without a hitch.
Still undecided whether it's worse that I'm out of the loop regarding Windows updates or that Microsoft decided to pull the same crap it did on MBR BIOS on UEFI systems now (being too incompetent to handle other bootloaders than Windows').
P.S: 1803 is surprisingly snappy, despite all that new future-computing-VR-bloat.
henrystreet
Charter Member
That's what I am finding on my work laptop and 2 FS desktops. More responsiveness in the GUI.
Why should MS handle a bootloader from another OS? It's just a waste of their resources to make it compatible with every other OS. If you want to use something from Linux, blame Linux when it doesn't work.
Bjoern
worst developer ever
They're starting to appease Linux users by integrating Bash, so why the hell shouldn't they consider dual boot scenarios?
P.S: Once set up, Linux always works.
Bjoern
worst developer ever
Laalaalaa, I can't hear you over my incredibly efficient and down to the point Linux installation and awesome computer skills used in getting it to run like I want to!
P.S:
How MS Office can be regarded as a good thing is beyond me. The overly tabbed user interface in use since 2007 is straight out of the lowest circles of hell.
I rarely cuss when using LibreOffice, but Office 2010 (in use at work) receives language that no soap and prayer in the world can wash off.
Stefano Zibell
Charter Member
I bought the latest Office (can't remember the year but it's far beyond 2010) for my girlfriend because she refuses to use anything else (yes, compatibility between MS files and everything else still has ways to go), and it looks pretty good.
The interface is far better than libreoffice.
And yep, I use linux (kubuntu, anything other than KDE looks like a bunch of different stuff put together lazily and performs poorly, or is so simple it can't even apply vsync and you get screen tearing (and if you fix it it performs just as bad)) on my laptop only because chrome OS (actually, chromium OS, as it is not a google device) is so limiting.
Linux works until some update breaks it. It happens to all OS's.
Replace Linux with Windows and that's my system. I do agree with you about MS Office, though - I have it because I need it rather than because I want it. I can't believe that anyone thought the ribbon was an improvement!
Bjoern
worst developer ever
Au contraire! (XFce)
That's a given as well. But gone are the days where I had to worry about background services and customized Windows ISOs to save RAM and disk space. 10 works well enough out of the box.
Agreed 150%! Windows 10 is the best iteration of the Windows OS so far and I never experienced the problems with updates that you sometimes read about over here (and other flightsim fora)
Priller
It's odd that some have had problems with W10, and others don't. I for one as a W10 user havent had a problem at all if any, every time an update comes up I just let it do its thing and I don't have a problem. My W10 came as new with my new PC for a start, so perhaps that might be the reason why I don't have the problems some users are experiencing. I note that W7 was the base for it, and I could revert back to it if I wanted to, but I'm happy with W10 as it is so I don't see the need for that. W10 updates aren't that dangerous to me anyway.