The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

[Green]

North American NA-40?

 

[fabulousfour]

It is the NA-40!

Over to you, Green.

 

[Green]

Thanks Robert.
Another front view...

 

[giruXX]

The Rhein Flugzeugbau RF-1 perhaps

 

[Green]

Indeed it is.

 

[giruXX]

Here is another innovative design (for its time):

 

[lefty]

Gosh ! didn't even have to look up a book for this one - it's the S.E.4, Uli.

 

[giruXX]

Mike, your memory is as sharp as ever! The S.E.4 it is

 

[lefty]

Here's another nice bit of streamlining - maybe not as easy as you may think !

 

[Baragouin]

Here's another nice bit of streamlining - maybe not as easy as you may think !

Hi all!
Looks very much like a Piero Magni PM2 but the landing gear doesn't fit....
Cheers
Carlo

 

[lefty]

Hi Carlo - I'm going to have to give you this, although you have confused me with the PM2 designation.

As far as my sources are concerned, this is the Magni Vittoria, which was altered in in six variations, A-F. This is the F, from 1925 !

Some sources refer to this as a sesquiplane because of the aerofoil struts..what difference do you see in the undercarriage, Carlo ?

 

[Baragouin]

Hi Carlo - I'm going to have to give you this, although you have confused me with the PM2 designation.

As far as my sources are concerned, this is the Magni Vittoria, which was altered in in six variations, A-F. This is the F, from 1925 !

Some sources refer to this as a sesquiplane because of the aerofoil struts..what difference do you see in the undercarriage, Carlo ?

Thanks Mike!
Well I didn't know that Piero Magni's PM2 "Vittoria" (I-BASF)... had so many variations….I'm attaching the only pic I have of this beautiful Aircraft and you can appreciate that the Landing gear (and several other particulars) are different from the image you have submitted….but as usual one thing is true: in the aviation field you learn something every day…
https://imgur.com/a/VVjJ5UV
Now it's dodo time but first thing Tomorrow (which means around noon my time) I promise to submit a new mystery!
Cheers
Carlo

 

[Baragouin]

Of course Mike as usual you're right! The pic I submitted is the PM3-1 "Vale" (which is the only one I have) but the picture you submitted is indeed the Piero Magni "Vittoria" F type…
Cheers
Carlo

 

[lefty]

Hi Carlo
we look forward to your mystery - in the meantime, two more nice shots for your collection - the same Vittoria and a very nice shot of the Vale from Jonathan Thompson's book.....

Now that's what I call Italian flair !

 

[Baragouin]

Hi Carlo
we look forward to your mystery - in the meantime, two more nice shots for your collection - the same Vittoria and a very nice shot of the Vale from Jonathan Thompson's book.....

Now that's what I call Italian flair !

Good morning Mike
thanks very much indeed for the beatiful Vale's pic! Now I'm submitting today's mystery born in a country where planes with folding wings are rather unusual….
Cheers
Carlo
https://imgur.com/a/91AqZKd

 

[Green]

Based on the Polikarpov R-5 - the Grigorovich TsKB-23 ShON (Shturmovik Osobogo Naznachyeniya). To deal with unruly Basmachi Tribesmen.

 

[Baragouin]

Based on the Polikarpov R-5 - the Grigorovich TsKB-23 ShON (Shturmovik Osobogo Naznachyeniya). To deal with unruly Basmachi Tribesmen.

Perfectly accurate Green! The only thing is that I have in my files Kocherigin instead of Grigorovich however it's Always a mess with russian names as the Whole thing came out as usual from TsAGI and probably both Grigorovich and Kocherigin worked on the very same project! compliments for the perfect transliteration of: Штурмовик оcобого назначения (special attack aircraft )
Waiting for your mystery now!
Cheers
Carlo

 

[Green]

Cheers Carlo.

 

[Moses03]

Looks to be a Vultee, most likely a V-11.

 

[Green]