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Nigel Richards Avro Tutor

Was this aircraft a sort of "British Stearman?" It resembles a Stearman for sure. It looks like it was a handful for a trainee; given the apparent size and power differences between this and a Tiger Moth, were they contemporaries or was it decided a Tiger Moth was better suited to meeting the needs of novice pilot instruction?
 
511Flyer said:
The house is a fantastic work in progress Nigel. What an absolutely beautiful setting.

Kalinita.
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Kalispera 511Flyer,

Thanks matey, yup; the House is wip under Permanent beta testing. :)

When I'm not pushing and painting polys into aeronautical facsimilies, you'll generally catch me fitting stones together...or scratching m'head in some nearby dry stream bed looking for the bit I don't have... :dizzy:
 
spokes2112 said:
Very kind of you Nigel... Thanks!
And all of us will soon be blessed with your (and other team members) fantastic work too!
A pleasure hearing from you :wavey: - if only for a while.. All good.
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The 'Thanks' are all mine, Roman!!!

Oh Man!!! Every time I wind up that magneto boost handle and pull that slat/slot lever... :love_heart::love_heart::love_heart:
 
SSI01 said:
Was this aircraft a sort of "British Stearman?" It resembles a Stearman for sure. It looks like it was a handful for a trainee; given the apparent size and power differences between this and a Tiger Moth, were they contemporaries or was it decided a Tiger Moth was better suited to meeting the needs of novice pilot instruction?
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That's more or less a fair assessment, SS101. :)

Despite the AVRO's size/power, she was probably more stable than the Tiger Moth. Probably too stable to be a truly good teacher of airmen, often described as a 'Gentleman's Aircraft'. She was no slouch at aerobatics however, and was used in 2 consecutive years by the CFS (Central Flying School, RAF) aerobatic team at the now legendary pre-war Hendon Air Pageant.

Although highly popular in many Air Forces worlwide, serving up until and during WWII, the AVRO 621/626 series eventually gave way to the more cost effective Tiger Moth and other more advanced trainers.
 
Thank you, Nigel, for that interesting information. I've read truly great fighters, at least up to the introduction of artificial "feel" and computer-assisted flight control input, were inherently unstable to a certain degree as that indicated a quicker response to control input. It would make sense also that a good trainer should have the same characteristics - you would have to seriously "fly" the airplane, and therefore learn it rather than be a passenger. Now and then I suppose something like an AT-9 came along that took that theory to its limit.

I should thank you as well for the interesting and quite beautiful photos of Greece, I can see why you are so attached to it.
 
Hi Nigel, the AC looks great and reading of life off the grid is inspiring. If we were to start a "GoFundMe" page to get you another solar panel would that get the FSX native version done quicker?
 
It would make sense also that a good trainer should have the same characteristics - you would have to seriously "fly" the airplane, and therefore learn it rather than be a passenger
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I've read that the thing about the Tiger Moth was that it was easy to fly, which made it safe, but hard to fly well, which made it a good trainer.
 
SSI01 said:
Thank you, Nigel, for that interesting information. I've read truly great fighters, at least up to the introduction of artificial "feel" and computer-assisted flight control input, were inherently unstable to a certain degree as that indicated a quicker response to control input. It would make sense also that a good trainer should have the same characteristics - you would have to seriously "fly" the airplane, and therefore learn it rather than be a passenger. Now and then I suppose something like an AT-9 came along that took that theory to its limit.

I should thank you as well for the interesting and quite beautiful photos of Greece, I can see why you are so attached to it.
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My pleasure Sir. :)

The characteristics you describe were probably what made the later North American T-6 Texan/Harvard such a phenomenally awesome trainer.
She did all the talking to green pilots not paying attention to teacher.

Will try and get some better pics up for you once spring arrives.
 
blanston12 said:
Hi Nigel, the AC looks great and reading of life off the grid is inspiring. If we were to start a "GoFundMe" page to get you another solar panel would that get the FSX native version done quicker?
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Very gracious of you indeed blanston12, Thank you for your kind suggestion Sir. :)

I was originally going to release the AVRO series as donationware packages, essentially funding themselves.
However, as they are not truly 'Native' in the strict sense, I have decided to make the fs9/FSX portover freely available to all.
It is frustrating that even for donations, GREECE does not currently allow for Paypal accounts other than for bonafide Companies - obviously beyond my semi-retired capabilities.

Hopefully the First 2 Aircraft packages will be released here at SOH for this weekend:

1. AVRO 621 (Armstrong Siddeley Mongoose powered)
2. AVRO 621 (Armstrong Siddeley Lynx powered)
 
Nigel and all involved people - thank you so much for this truly masterpiece - the Tutor is fantastic :applause:

All the Best

Dirk
 
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