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Milviz T-38C has launched

stovall said:
We all have our threshold on price. I have seen this fantastic aircraft and have no doubt it is worth the price. We can all have an opinion but I don't want to hear the word greed or anything demeaning a developer.
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Meh, I dont think "greed" figures into it. Business is business and developers have costs. This becomes a personal choice as to whether the price = good value to you the consumer. For me the answer is no, at least on this aircraft.
80 bucks is what I would pay for a very high end study level aircraft like the PMDG 747. (example only). Unfortunately for me, I spend so much time on real airplanes for work, I dont have time to study for use of a high end study level plane. So, I will stick with the mid range birds. but thats just me.
 
ejoiner said:
Meh, I dont think "greed" figures into it. Business is business and developers have costs. This becomes a personal choice as to whether the price = good value to you the consumer.
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I agree. The price is clearly a result of a delicate balance between covering development costs, and returning some degree of investment to the business. This is no different than other products that have varying price points (cars, houses, boats, etc.). The good news is, there are a bunch of developers creating new aircraft and scenery at varying price points...with varying quality...so there are ample choices available based on interests and budget.

Just my .02 cents.

Kent

P.S. The good news is, MilViz and other develpers typically have a multitude of great sales throughout the year....so keep hitting that refresh button throughout the year!
 
How are the performances of the module (FPS wise), compared to the T-38A ADV (or other modules like the Milviz F4E or F4J/S) ?
I fly in VR and performance is a critical point...
 
vvince said:
How are the performances of the module (FPS wise), compared to the T-38A ADV (or other modules like the Milviz F4E or F4J/S) ?
I fly in VR and performance is a critical point...
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Performance in VR is very good. I was flying it on my older system (i72700k @ 4.5GHz, GTX980) in the Oculus Rift and performance was very smooth. Needless to say if it's smooth in VR then it's even smoother on a monitor.
 
Have always liked Milviz products but with the price they are charging, now not so much.

Along with pre-buy fiasco with the XP-11 ATR they are headed in the wrong direction.
 
Naruto-kun said:
I'm working on it :) . Glass is surprisingly difficult to do in PBR. I got it working nicely under certain conditions, only to find it different under others. Expect updates.
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Does PBR add that much significance to, f.i. a canopy, to warrant the extra effort ?.. 'Normal texturing' does a wonderful job on external glass parts already, don't you think ?

There is way more to this baby than just the 2 external model pilots though ;) .
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You don't say ! :)

Milviz' pilot figures always look like the proverbial 'last minute' items. " Ok, lets release this baby. We haven't forgotten anything, have we ?..." " Hmmmm...pilot figures, maybe ??!" " Oh,yeah! Drat !!..." It's just *because* Milviz external models look so real and wonderful a rush job on a pilot figure makes it stand out like a sour thumb. A pilot happens to be THE most important 'part' of what kind of aeroplane whatsoever. ( i know, it's like talking to a wall.. In the more then one hour lasting Milviz T-38 video, apart from the beginning and end, not *one* shot of the external model.. )
Btw, it's absolutely imperatively NOT like Milviz will be "reverse engineering" this new T-38 model back to the ol' F-5/NF-5, right ??.. Can understand that, still i'd be heavely interested in it (NF-5). Oh, and i like pilot figures. :costumed-smiley-071

cheers,
jan
 
The PBR glass is already fixed :) . Coming up in the update.

I can't promise any updates to the pilot figures but will ask. It is kinda a tradeoff in terms of time and effort. The pilot figure is indeed the least of our concerns when it comes to details in the 3D model and code.

And no, I don't know of any F-5 plans. And if there were, it is anything but a "reverse engineering" of the T-38. Entirely new 3D models from scratch, a number of differences in flight model (with our ADV external flight model, adding weapon payloads is anything but trivial), and since the cockpit is entirely different, brand new code from scratch, with many more systems that the 38C simply doesn't have, like radar etc.
 
Naruto-kun said:
The PBR glass is already fixed :) . Coming up in the update.
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Terrific!

I can't promise any updates to the pilot figures but will ask. It is kinda a tradeoff in terms of time and effort. The pilot figure is indeed the least of our concerns when it comes to details in the 3D model and code.
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Understand of course. And that's perfectly Ok re tube- and propliners and/or other big planes (although the pilot and co-pilot figures in the PMDG 747 each have their own animations... traditional holy moly effect...;-) but i kinda think differently when it concerns prop/jet fighters or GA. It's all personal taste of course and maybe it's a bit over the top with me because i just can't have any fun flying a prop/jet fighter or GA plane if i have something against the pilot figure. Yes, we come in all sorts.. :)

And no, I don't know of any F-5 plans. And if there were, it is anything but a "reverse engineering" of the T-38.
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Don't i know it. That's why i put it in brackets.. ;-)

Naruto-kun said:
Would you be satisfied if the head and back posture of the pilots differed slightly?
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Well, anything that would do away with the obvious 'identical twins look' would be fine of course. Personally i think something as 'cheap' as the 'identical twins syndrome' is unworthy of a sublime modeled aircraft like the Milviz T-38C (or any other aircraft model in that kind of price range..)

Thanks for considering ! :cool:

( in a screenshot the identical twins will immidiately give the aircraft away as a model... that's just a pity. It's like a small scratch on your brand shiny new Lambo... you don't see the Lambo anymore, just the scratch.... ;-)
 
Seems like this question is a little off topic :biggrin-new: but from those who have bought it, what's it like? Easy to operate? How does it fly etc?
 
DaleRFU said:
Seems like this question is a little off topic :biggrin-new:
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Yo, sorry bout that... :sneakiness:

but from those who have bought it, what's it like? Easy to operate? How does it fly etc?
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For now, I'm just standing behind the fence amongst the bushes, waving at the pilots. Who knows, they might wave back... :wavey:

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New update released via the MVAMS updater.

Change log:
Added default HUD and gunsight selection to MVAMS General page
Fixed rear canopy lever animation
Fixed missing switch sounds
Fixed emergency gear lever animation
Changes to flap initialization
Adjusted brake pedal animations
Adjusted turn performance to better match curves

Updates to 3D model
Fixed chaff/flare HUD text overlapping with gun rounds when in A-G MAN mode.
Fixed search indexing duplicate error in MDP for ICAO waypoints
Fixed bug in NWS TGT Designate when using certain DEST point ranges
Fixed elevation bug in A-G MAN bomb release causing large AIM distances in scoring
Fixed bug on MFD DEST page when using NEXT/PREV keys
Fixed bug on SCORE page where corrupt data was displayed
 
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