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Making Gmax Trees...
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Blood_Hawk23
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I only have 7 textures left.
Ash- 5m,15m
Small Pine- 2.5m, 5m
Medium Pine- 5m, 10m, 20m
Large Pine- 10m, 20m, 35m
Walnut- 10m, 20m
Medium Oak- 10m, 20m
Large Oak- 15m, 25m, 40m
That will give 17 more trees for 28 total. Its not a lot but its a start. I've run out of images that are good enough to work with. If I can get more then I'll add them to the list.
Ash- 5m,15m
Small Pine- 2.5m, 5m
Medium Pine- 5m, 10m, 20m
Large Pine- 10m, 20m, 35m
Walnut- 10m, 20m
Medium Oak- 10m, 20m
Large Oak- 15m, 25m, 40m
That will give 17 more trees for 28 total. Its not a lot but its a start. I've run out of images that are good enough to work with. If I can get more then I'll add them to the list.
kelticheart
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Hallelujah!
YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YEAH!!!!
NORTHERN HEMISPHERE TREES, FINALLY!
THANK YOU!!!
KH
Any projected release date yet?
YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YEAH!!!!
NORTHERN HEMISPHERE TREES, FINALLY!
THANK YOU!!!
KH
Any projected release date yet?
Blood_Hawk23
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Hey Kelti,
Welcome back. How was your Vacation?
I've been a little busy lately. Trying to finish them up.
Welcome back. How was your Vacation?
I've been a little busy lately. Trying to finish them up.
kelticheart
Charter Member
Hi there!
Hi John and Manuele!
Vacation splendid, thank you. Weather was a little unpredictable, just like anywhere else in the Caribbean this time of the year, but overall marvellous.
The only serious problems was due to very large beach areas covered with overgrown kelp (Italian: sargassi) washed ashore by the sea. The Club Med info people told us this phenomena was shared by the entire Caribbean area, starting from Venezuelan shores all the way up to the Virgin Islands, Haiti/Dominican Republic, Puertorico and Cuba.
Apparently it's a consequence of global temperature increase. Only Eastern oriented shores, the ones facing the Atlantic Ocean, were involved and the shorelines looked quite bad in those areas. Shores facing the Caribbean Sea were beautiful and clean as usual.
The real discomfort is caused by the foetid smell given off by rotting kelp, still afloat and trapped by the waves against beaches or washed ashore. Entire bays in Southern Guadeloupe were covered by it, and some was present on Saint Anne shore, where we were staying. One morning we were woken up by the noise of a light bulldozer on wheels, loading kelp from the beach onto a construction truck.
But nothing that a good cocktail made with local, high quality "agricole" rum could not cure.....we averaged four to five Moijotos, Pina Coladas, Planteur Punches and Daiquiris a day........
Too bas it's over.....
Cheers!
KH
Hi John and Manuele!
Vacation splendid, thank you. Weather was a little unpredictable, just like anywhere else in the Caribbean this time of the year, but overall marvellous.
The only serious problems was due to very large beach areas covered with overgrown kelp (Italian: sargassi) washed ashore by the sea. The Club Med info people told us this phenomena was shared by the entire Caribbean area, starting from Venezuelan shores all the way up to the Virgin Islands, Haiti/Dominican Republic, Puertorico and Cuba.
Apparently it's a consequence of global temperature increase. Only Eastern oriented shores, the ones facing the Atlantic Ocean, were involved and the shorelines looked quite bad in those areas. Shores facing the Caribbean Sea were beautiful and clean as usual.
The real discomfort is caused by the foetid smell given off by rotting kelp, still afloat and trapped by the waves against beaches or washed ashore. Entire bays in Southern Guadeloupe were covered by it, and some was present on Saint Anne shore, where we were staying. One morning we were woken up by the noise of a light bulldozer on wheels, loading kelp from the beach onto a construction truck.
But nothing that a good cocktail made with local, high quality "agricole" rum could not cure.....we averaged four to five Moijotos, Pina Coladas, Planteur Punches and Daiquiris a day........
Too bas it's over.....
Cheers!
KH
Blood_Hawk23
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Kelti,
Check your email. I've sent you the first half.
Check your email. I've sent you the first half.
kelticheart
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Blood_Hawk23
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GOT 'EM!!!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
Cheers!
KH
Let me know what you think. I have the other half left to do. I'm then going to look into the Gerrish set. maybe between them we can create some forests.
kelticheart
Charter Member
ETO Gmax trees test: large models
Hi John,
I did my homework during the weekend. I shot some pictures of my tests, I'll post them in three different replies to help clarity.
You sent to me four tree models: Beech, Black Poplar, Chestnut and Maple. I used my work on Gary Burn's BoB Hawkinge as a test site for them, where I had placed a mixture of Wolfi's hardwood forest patches, Lindsay Watts' earliest generic broadleafs and Martin Wright's British Tree library.
The below shots show the Large Beech and Large Chestnut placed among the above trees and near Wolfi's ETO buildings. They seem to me a little too oversized, the difference with the others is big and they could not be mixed with them, particularly with Martin Wright's trees and Wolfi's forest patch, which would provide a realistic look around airports. The are also rather out of scale with the the buildings.
While the Large Black Poplar size seems ok, I could not test the Large Maple because it was not included in the pack.
Tree textures: it depends upon what period of the year you want them to belong to. In my opinion they are ok for spring time while they are tad too brilliant for summertime and they should be toned down somewhat, particularly the beech, but let's ask other members' opinions about this.
Onto the small sizes.....
Hi John,
I did my homework during the weekend. I shot some pictures of my tests, I'll post them in three different replies to help clarity.
You sent to me four tree models: Beech, Black Poplar, Chestnut and Maple. I used my work on Gary Burn's BoB Hawkinge as a test site for them, where I had placed a mixture of Wolfi's hardwood forest patches, Lindsay Watts' earliest generic broadleafs and Martin Wright's British Tree library.
The below shots show the Large Beech and Large Chestnut placed among the above trees and near Wolfi's ETO buildings. They seem to me a little too oversized, the difference with the others is big and they could not be mixed with them, particularly with Martin Wright's trees and Wolfi's forest patch, which would provide a realistic look around airports. The are also rather out of scale with the the buildings.
While the Large Black Poplar size seems ok, I could not test the Large Maple because it was not included in the pack.
Tree textures: it depends upon what period of the year you want them to belong to. In my opinion they are ok for spring time while they are tad too brilliant for summertime and they should be toned down somewhat, particularly the beech, but let's ask other members' opinions about this.
Onto the small sizes.....
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kelticheart
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ETO Gmax trees test: small models
....the below sequence shows the small sizes of your trees.
I placed the largely utilised Bedford truck near them to get a better comparison, Rami placed this vehicle in every ETO scenery layout or mission he made.
I think they could be made a little bigger than this. They are very small, but they look like full grown trees....
Onto the medium ones....
....the below sequence shows the small sizes of your trees.
I placed the largely utilised Bedford truck near them to get a better comparison, Rami placed this vehicle in every ETO scenery layout or mission he made.
I think they could be made a little bigger than this. They are very small, but they look like full grown trees....
Onto the medium ones....
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kelticheart
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ETO Gmax trees test: medium models
...finally the medium sizes.
Again, the Beech model looks to me quite large for a medium size tree. This could be classified as the large size, instead of medium. The same goes for the chestnut, while the Maple could be a little larger. The Black Poplar looks ok to me. Did you notice that small horizontal thin line that shows up above each tree? It shows up for every size, there's probably some editing leftover in their texture files.
I kept the comparison against buildings and vehicle. Let me suggest you to do the same, it's not easy to judge their actual sizes when seen by themselves.
Their final destination will be among other scenery objects and they must blend well into them to get the credit they deserve for your effort at creating them.
There's no question they are already beautiful objects, much needed for realistic ETO/Northern emisphere scenery works, a little bit of refinements will make them perfect.
Yet I would like to hear comments from other people here, mine is only a single point of view.
Thank you for your hard work anyway.
Cheers!
KH
...finally the medium sizes.
Again, the Beech model looks to me quite large for a medium size tree. This could be classified as the large size, instead of medium. The same goes for the chestnut, while the Maple could be a little larger. The Black Poplar looks ok to me. Did you notice that small horizontal thin line that shows up above each tree? It shows up for every size, there's probably some editing leftover in their texture files.
I kept the comparison against buildings and vehicle. Let me suggest you to do the same, it's not easy to judge their actual sizes when seen by themselves.
Their final destination will be among other scenery objects and they must blend well into them to get the credit they deserve for your effort at creating them.
There's no question they are already beautiful objects, much needed for realistic ETO/Northern emisphere scenery works, a little bit of refinements will make them perfect.
Yet I would like to hear comments from other people here, mine is only a single point of view.
Thank you for your hard work anyway.
Cheers!
KH
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Blood_Hawk23
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Info is based on this...
sweet chestnut
height of 20–35 m (66–115 ft)
5, 20, 35
Pedunculate oak
20 m (66 ft) tall by up to 20 m (66 ft) broad
height of 20–35 m (66–115 ft)
5, 20, 35
Canadian poplar
40 m (131ft) by 12 m (39ft)
5, 20, 40
European beech
heights of up to 50 m (160 ft) tall
7, 25, 50
Yew
growing 10–20 metres (33–66 ft) (exceptionally up to 28 metres (92 ft)) tall
2.5, 10, 20
Common ash
20–35 m (66–115 ft) (exceptionally to 46 m or 151 ft) tall
5, 20, 35
European white elm
grows up to 35 metres high 20–35 m (66–115 ft)
5, 20, 35
Spanish oak
10–20 metres (33–66 ft)
2.5, 10, 20
Black Poplar
20–30 m (rarely 40 m) tall
5, 15, 25
All measurements are in meter, except where noted. There could be a scaling issue, I'll have to have Allen look it over.
sweet chestnut
height of 20–35 m (66–115 ft)
5, 20, 35
Pedunculate oak
20 m (66 ft) tall by up to 20 m (66 ft) broad
height of 20–35 m (66–115 ft)
5, 20, 35
Canadian poplar
40 m (131ft) by 12 m (39ft)
5, 20, 40
European beech
heights of up to 50 m (160 ft) tall
7, 25, 50
Yew
growing 10–20 metres (33–66 ft) (exceptionally up to 28 metres (92 ft)) tall
2.5, 10, 20
Common ash
20–35 m (66–115 ft) (exceptionally to 46 m or 151 ft) tall
5, 20, 35
European white elm
grows up to 35 metres high 20–35 m (66–115 ft)
5, 20, 35
Spanish oak
10–20 metres (33–66 ft)
2.5, 10, 20
Black Poplar
20–30 m (rarely 40 m) tall
5, 15, 25
All measurements are in meter, except where noted. There could be a scaling issue, I'll have to have Allen look it over.
kelticheart
Charter Member
I was confused......
John I'm sorry!
I was not or on drugs yesterday, yet I talked about a Maple tree instead of Birch!
You sent me Beech Tree L, M and S; Birch Tree M and S; Black Poplar Tree L, M and S; Chestnut Tree L, M and S.
Everytime I talked about a maple, it was a birch.
Temperatures here in the low 100's F (on last Saturday afternoon we reached 42 C/107.6 F) for a whole week, truly melted my memory banks!
I think 50 m trees are extremely rare. A 10 m (33') tree is already a big one.
I just looked at Wikipedia and the European Beech tops at 35 m tall exceptionally, it averages 15-20 m.
Chestnut Tree averages at 10-15 m., exceptionally 25-30, but we are talking here of trees almost 300 year old.
I'll look for more.
Cheers!
KH
John I'm sorry!
I was not
or on drugs yesterday, yet I talked about a Maple tree instead of Birch!You sent me Beech Tree L, M and S; Birch Tree M and S; Black Poplar Tree L, M and S; Chestnut Tree L, M and S.
Everytime I talked about a maple, it was a birch.
Temperatures here in the low 100's F (on last Saturday afternoon we reached 42 C/107.6 F) for a whole week, truly melted my memory banks!
I think 50 m trees are extremely rare. A 10 m (33') tree is already a big one.
I just looked at Wikipedia and the European Beech tops at 35 m tall exceptionally, it averages 15-20 m.
Chestnut Tree averages at 10-15 m., exceptionally 25-30, but we are talking here of trees almost 300 year old.
I'll look for more.
Cheers!
KH
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Ravenna,
There isn't one, but I'm pretty sure that's where the files comes from. My suggestion is to send a PM to Blood_Hawk23 and see if he still has the files, and maybe if you can resurrect his interest to complete the project.
Can't find a link to the trees and treelines.
Ravenna,
There isn't one, but I'm pretty sure that's where the files comes from. My suggestion is to send a PM to Blood_Hawk23 and see if he still has the files, and maybe if you can resurrect his interest to complete the project.