Released: Aerosoft F-16

[ColoKent]

Vin...

....you've always been DA MAN. Thank you on the alternate configs...I had not thought of the need to change the VC visuals for each.

On another topic, I wish your pull with the Cloud9 crowd had been more-- I would have LOVED to get the F-104G into FSX (and a TF- model as well). Anything you can do to "complete the circle" with the Aerosoft F-16 is greatly appreciated...I guess I can model the NATO F-16 community (1981-88) just as easily as I could the NATO F-104 era (1963-81).

Thanks again, Vin!

Kent

 

[Dag]

...in particular, the lack of variety of external loads limits it's appeal to me. But it seems to follow the typical approach I've seen on other Aerosoft releases (i.e. the Twotter with no airstairs): They work on a product for two years, get it 90% of the way where it needs to be....and then they release it. Their products are spectacular-- but from what I've seen, usually only 90% complete. In this case a variety of additional external loads (particularly the centerline droptank and wing drop tanks on a single model-- a very common config.) would not have required new development-- just the application of some systematic reasearch. Tanks and ECM pods would have likewise yielded a dedicated Wild Wesel/SEAD version (for you Spang guys). The question is, will Aerosoft make it right with the inevitable F-16 service pack release-- let's hope so.

Note to any Aerosoft spooks reading this: Also....PLEASE do a two seat F-16B/D version as a companion (with droptanks and travel pods). If you add more external configurations in a Service Pack, and THEN you give us a seperate two seater (and I'm advocating it as another add-on for purchase-- not a freebie), we'll all have the F-16 metal we require to properly simulate F-16 ops. Cloud9 similarly screwed up when they released their beautiful F-104G....with no TF- version. So let's please get it right this time...how about it?

Let's hope the Bronco has a full variety of different external loads available when it is released (if it is ever released).

K.

Maybe you should post this over at aerosoft or something, just a thought.
On models; I'm really sorry that we dissapoint you there. We put emphasis on National differences on the aircraft themselves instead of making every store you can imagine. We did 24 different models and 56 paint jobs.....
There are SEAD configs and 3 tankers (Danish).
There is a model request thread over at the aerosoft forums, put your requests there.

 

[ColoKent]

Dag...

...will do. I was simply exchanging my initial impressions with others here...Each to his own-- I recognize that the way this will most likely work in the end is that Aerosoft will do whatever they feel like doing with the F-16, and we'll be left to deal with it-- or take it off of our systems. The best we consumers can hope for is to have an "inside advocate" for our idea.

Kent

P.S. Your website and interests are along the same lines as my own: RoNAF ops!

 

[CodyValkyrie]

...will do. I was simply exchanging my initial impressions with others here...Each to his own-- I recognize that the way this will most likely work in the end is that Aerosoft will do whatever they feel like doing with the F-16, and we'll be left to deal with it-- or take it off of our systems. The best we consumers can hope for is to have an "inside advocate" for our idea.

Kent

P.S. Your website and interests are along the same lines as my own: RoNAF ops!

I would hardly say so. I have already seen several testers and devs here in this post already, so you are talking directly to the team. The forums at Aerosoft are no different.

Aerosoft is very good about listening to feedback in my opinion. Hence why the developers are doing everything within their power to make the Bush Hawk more FPS friendly even though many folks like myself have no issues with it at the moment. Sure, they can't do everything, but when you are a company as big as Aerosoft, how can you?

I spent many years working on the 16, and I enjoy this Aerosoft offering (which is the best on the market at this time, and likely will be so for a long while). There is already a list building of things that are likely to be worked on or developed further for the testers and devs. Your input now is critical.

I do however think that some of your expectations of products is a little bewildering... Saying a product is 90% done because it doesn't have a certain config you like or that it doesn't have air stairs or the like is strange to me. Not only are you talking about 2 totally different issues, these are not what a sim makes! :isadizzy: I suggest you mention what variations you would like to see and see if you can gather some support on it. That is probably the best way to go about it. I do think that because the current aircraft doesn't have a config you might be happy to see however does not change how good the product is. If you have something to say about some bugs, a serious flaw with the aerodynamics, etc, then I could understand the statement.

Anyways I digress. Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

As for the systems, as stated, some of this will get a hashin over in the future releases. I for one was an advocate of a simulated O2 system, so I hope I get the opportunity to test one

 

[Prowler1111]

I can´t find anything wrong with this addon, it´s priced right, and it does delivers.
I have just one BUT.
The Cockpits, even as they are a work of art themselves, it feels ackward to have an A model with a C Block 30+ cockpit, it takes, IMHO, some of the inmersion, but other than that (and i´m not really complaning) it´s a great addon.

Best regards
Prowler

 

[ColoKent]

I think...

...I wasn't clear about the context of the "90% complete" comment. The product is great. You're correct that it is a configuration issue I'm talking about, so I should have done a better job of describing it.

I like Aerosoft's products...I will admit however, that I was highly irritated over the Twotter (Another GREAT model) being released without airstairs (absolutely the most common configuration, since most twotters were/are used for commuter flying, not skydiving-- in fact I have likened this omission to building a "beautiful KC-135-- without a boom".), and when I brought the point up on the Aerosoft forum, I was told "there are too many airstair configurations". Similarly, when the Jayhawk/Seahawk came out, they didn't release a paint kit for it. So it was just goofy, "10% omissions" that drove me to make my "90% complete" comment. It's a no-win situation, I realize.

I will go over to the Aerosoft forum and list the requests/suggestions, and then I'll leave it be.

Thanks,

Kent

 

[Scratch]

Man, this sucker has got some detail! I think I found some boogers and a few pieces of gum left behind by the beta testers:costumes:

 

[CG_1976]

Man detail interior and exterior are very impressive. Like the bush hawk no fps problems for me with this F-16. Even dressed mine in WI ANG colors found this morning at Avsim. Now im really Happy customer. But the navy isnt happy with me as in my last pic i went for a flyby on the Uss-Regean outside MUGM NAS.

 

[JT8D-9A]

There is a way to create a transparent texture section for "cleaning up" the modeled in AB effect so a custom effect can be made. A couple of people I know have done it. It was done for Captain Sim's old Mig-21 and a friend of mine is chipping away at the effect for the Iris F-20 and Acceleration F/A-18. I did a beta run on his system recently and what I saw was impressive. He gave me the screens(shown below) of his work with the X-Load Hornet. After seeing this, I am going to have to buy this now! Maybe at some point someone can do the same for the F-16.

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Wow, that looks really cool. I hope that he or you will share it.

 

[Lionheart]

Man, this sucker has got some detail! I think I found some boogers and a few pieces of gum left behind by the beta testers:costumes:

LOLOL...

I can just see some crusties and nose goblins up in there. :d


Cool angle shot Scratch!



Waiting on Friday evening.... C'mon Friday......



Bill

 

[JorisVandenBerghe]

Waiting on Friday evening.... C'mon Friday......
Bill

So am I...boy, do I hate Aerosoft...since I got the Twotter, I'm pretty addicted to that company - the more products they release, the more money getting out of my wallet...

 

[deathfromafar]

Wow, that looks really cool. I hope that he or you will share it.

Well, that is my hope as well. My friend is experimenting with FSX afterburner effects based on animated visual effects. The copyrights of the original effects are used in a lot of payware but my friend has released some mods with permission from the original authors more than once. I can tell everyone that there are some obstacles with using this type of effect and they are slowly being overcome. Hopefully the efforts will pay off and there can be some progress on FSX afterburner effects for aftermarket use in various aircraft.

 

[MudMarine]

Man, this sucker has got some detail! I think I found some boogers and a few pieces of gum left behind by the beta testers:costumes:

You know those Air Force pilots Scratch....they just can't keep their fingers out of their noses! hehe:costumes: The only diffrence between them and Marine Aviators is that Marines eat them..........YUK!:costumes:

 

[jmig]

For the paintkit:

1) Go to the Aerosoft website
2) On the left menu click "FAQ's / Updates"
3) login with your username/password
4) select the product (F-16)
5) and there's the paintkit.

I agree it would be easier to have the paintkit already installed with the product itself but this is how Aerosoft decided to do it.

I would love to, if the suckers would ever send me my activation email. I tried to go there and post my thanks and congratulations for a job well done.

It said my handle "jmig" wasn't in their database. I could have sworn that I have posted there before? So, I registered and got a message that I had to be vetted and would receive an email in 10 mins ago. Never got it?

No matter, I can get any paint I might want from AVSIM.

 

[deathfromafar]

You know those Air Force pilots Scratch....they just can't keep their fingers out of their noses! hehe:costumes: The only diffrence between them and Marine Aviators is that Marines eat them..........YUK!:costumes:

LMAO!!! You know what MARINE really stands for??? My A$$ Rides In Navy Equipment!!!
:costumes::costumes::costumes:

 

[jmig]

LMAO!!! You know what MARINE really stands for??? My A$$ Rides In Navy Equipment!!!
:costumes::costumes::costumes:

:costumes: Ouuuuu now you have done it! MM will be getting his M1 out of the closet, his jarhead brain bucket from the kitchen pot and pans and come after your a$$.

I need to remember that ACRONYM, however. :costumes::costumes: I like it.

BTW MM, many a Marine thanked the USAF pilots who flew close air support for them. :d

 

[MudMarine]

Hey, like I said, at least the AirForce jocks don't eat their boogers!! The Navy is so tight fisted it's the only thing left that we have to eat!:costumes:

 

[MHAircraft]

Now the other Taiwan AF F-16 wing won't feel left out ... :ernae:

 

[deathfromafar]

Look at the bright side Mud, Marines needed the Navy to do what no other Military Expeditionary Force in history has ever accomplished, Conquer the Pacific Ocean!!!! :ernae: LOL

 

[MudMarine]

Look at the bright side Mud, Marines needed the Navy to do what no other Military Expeditionary Force in history has ever accomplished, Conquer the Pacific Ocean!!!! :ernae: LOL

We are good, aren't we!hehe:d