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germany detonated nukes in 45?

Daveroo

Daveroo

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i watched a show yesterday,,i dvr'd it,and dont remember when it was on..but it was about an itailian reporter working for mussonlini,who was given free reign to german secrets(im not sure i believed that part)they interviewed the old guy who passed in 2000,and he seemed like he was a story teller....but to the end of the show they talked about how germany detonated two bombs,i forget where they said..i do remember the last one was northern germany..and was witnessed by a young girl who was interviewed,,,
i took a break and reread what i have and im rambling...

did germany detonate or did they not detonate nukes in 45?..and has anyone found info..i can seem to find any..dave
 
Daveroo said:
i watched a show yesterday,,i dvr'd it,and dont remember when it was on..but it was about an itailian reporter working for mussonlini,who was given free reign to german secrets(im not sure i believed that part)they interviewed the old guy who passed in 2000,and he seemed like he was a story teller....but to the end of the show they talked about how germany detonated two bombs,i forget where they said..i do remember the last one was northern germany..and was witnessed by a young girl who was interviewed,,,
i took a break and reread what i have and im rambling...

did germany detonate or did they not detonate nukes in 45?..and has anyone found info..i can seem to find any..dave
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IIRC they were working on building nukes but in the end the allies found out that their reactors were too small to create one.
 
There's been a similar story attributed to Japan. Some type of major explosion in the Kurile Islands, I think in early 1945. I think it's highly unlikely Japan or Germany had the technology to build and test-fire a nuclear device before they were defeated. Look at the elaborate research and development team we had in place for the Manhattan Project, there was nothing equivalent in either country.
 
The scientists in charge of making the bomb were stalling in the hopes the Allies would get there in time. (Pressure from the gestapo was intense on these souls).

Meanwhile, the Allies found out about the production of the bomb. The most important component they (the nazi's) needed was heavy water. They had a mountain lake in Switzerland that had Duerturium (heavy water, however its spelled) that the nazi's would use for this project. Otherwise, without it, the project was dead.

So, a night mission was assembled, we (the Allies) flew in and took out that damn.

I 'think' they made a movie about it back in the days of black and white movies.

I dont think it was Damn Busters...


Scary how close they were.


I have never heard though of an actual Atomic going off in Germany. But then they have evidence of that flying saucer that ran on tons of electricity and red mercury. The flying pad with huge steal cage and ducts for electrical cables exist today at the bunker site, atop a mountain.


Bill
 
TARPSBird said:
There's been a similar story attributed to Japan. Some type of major explosion in the Kurile Islands, I think in early 1945. I think it's highly unlikely Japan or Germany had the technology to build and test-fire a nuclear device before they were defeated. Look at the elaborate research and development team we had in place for the Manhattan Project, there was nothing equivalent in either country.
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Although there were spies in on it from day 1.
 
Lionheart said:
Meanwhile, the Allies found out about the production of the bomb. The most important component they (the nazi's) needed was heavy water. They had a mountain lake in Switzerland that had Duerturium (heavy water, however its spelled) that the nazi's would use for this project. Otherwise, without it, the project was dead.

So, a night mission was assembled, we (the Allies) flew in and took out that damn.

I 'think' they made a movie about it back in the days of black and white movies.

I dont think it was Damn Busters...


Scary how close they were.




Bill
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i believe it was 633 Squadron in color
My favorite mossie movie
H
 
Actual fission was never attained in the German program. Actually, they were not all that close to it. There was no nuclear detonation in Germany.
 
there are so many military stuff we don't know about. You can never confirm these type of stories.

A few years back, i had a student in my design class who worked for the USAF. His job was a to create "pitch paintings" - which was then used to sell the aircraft concept to the government for funding. For example, a nice shiny F-22 flying around in the clouds...or an A-10 blowing up some tanks. His security clearance was very high (since he knew about these projects waaaay before the public found out).

Anyways, i happen to flip through his sketchbook one day, and noticed some really weird designs. Unlike most of us (meaning designers like myself), who was raised on Star Wars, Aliens, Bladerunner, etc. and have a certain look in our work (sci-fi influenced), his designs were almost another world...completely weird technology but yet had a errie realism to them. I asked if he got these ideas from captured UFOs (as a joke), and he got all serious and said he didn't want to talk about it. I can only guess at the type of stuff he's seen....

-feng
 
FengZ said:
there are so many military stuff we don't know about. You can never confirm these type of stories.

A few years back, i had a student in my design class who worked for the USAF. His job was a to create "pitch paintings" - which was then used to sell the aircraft concept to the government for funding. For example, a nice shiny F-22 flying around in the clouds...or an A-10 blowing up some tanks. His security clearance was very high (since he knew about these projects waaaay before the public found out).

Anyways, i happen to flip through his sketchbook one day, and noticed some really weird designs. Unlike most of us (meaning designers like myself), who was raised on Star Wars, Aliens, Bladerunner, etc. and have a certain look in our work (sci-fi influenced), his designs were almost another world...completely weird technology but yet had a errie realism to them. I asked if he got these ideas from captured UFOs (as a joke), and he got all serious and said he didn't want to talk about it. I can only guess at the type of stuff he's seen....

-feng
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More stories like that!!! Yeah, love it!
:applause::applause::applause::applause:
 
Lionheart said:
Meanwhile, the Allies found out about the production of the bomb. The most important component they (the nazi's) needed was heavy water. They had a mountain lake in Switzerland that had Duerturium (heavy water, however its spelled) that the nazi's would use for this project. Otherwise, without it, the project was dead.

So, a night mission was assembled, we (the Allies) flew in and took out that damn.
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sure switzerland was netural throughout the whole war, i highly doubt we flew a raid into switzerland however ...

... there was a raid on the german heavy factory Norsk Hydro hydrogen electrolysis plant in norway done by britishs SOEs and norway SOEs in 1942 (think it was 42, might have been 43)
 
Toastmaker said:
Actual fission was never attained in the German program. Actually, they were not all that close to it. There was no nuclear detonation in Germany.
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I thought it was. Not the atomic bomb bang kind, but the experimental type where you use a moderator to slow things way down and count how many neutrons fly off.

Something about an aluminum cased chunk of uranium, heavy water, and something else... it's been a while since I read it though. But I'm pretty sure they got around to starting to play with fission.

They knew an atom bomb could be built, they just didn't have the resources to do it. They sure didn't know we were pursuing it with as much vigor as we did though.
 
stiz said:
sure switzerland was netural throughout the whole war, i highly doubt we flew a raid into switzerland however ...

... there was a raid on the german heavy factory Norsk Hydro hydrogen electrolysis plant in norway done by britishs SOEs and norway SOEs in 1942 (think it was 42, might have been 43)
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Telemark Raid, Brit para's failed due aircraft crash, survivors executed.
Norwegian SOE and further bombing raids eventually destroyed the building.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_heavy_water_sabotage

Nazi UFO's?
http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/album/showphoto.php?photo=14528

regards Collin:ernae:
 
FengZ said:
Anyways, i happen to flip through his sketchbook one day, and noticed some really weird designs. Unlike most of us (meaning designers like myself), who was raised on Star Wars, Aliens, Bladerunner, etc. and have a certain look in our work (sci-fi influenced), his designs were almost another world...completely weird technology but yet had a errie realism to them. I asked if he got these ideas from captured UFOs (as a joke), and he got all serious and said he didn't want to talk about it. I can only guess at the type of stuff he's seen....

-feng
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Hey Feng,

I was watching a documentary on a major aircraft manufacturer, I want to say Northrop, (I think). The CEO was telling this person (I think he was a vice president of the corporation) one day; 'You know all those movies like Star Wars with space ships and things? Well we did things like that long ago.'

Sent a chill up my spine.

You know we have tons of new 'things' out. I will be really angry though if they have been past Jupiter and kept it a secret.





On the German flying saucers, there was talk of only one disc. The 'red mercury' was extremely deadly, and very rare, and is boiled or super heated (or something) and is located in the center of the disc. It was definately electric though. I think the term is Magneto drive, Magneto being electro-magnetic propulsion.

Here are some possibles of what it looked like. The third one is a 'scary thought' lol..


Bill
 
Henry said:
i believe it was 633 Squadron in color
My favorite mossie movie
H
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633 Squadron was a rocket fuel depot, they had to blow off the overhanging cliff face so it flattened the fuel plant :icon_lol:

yeah a bit back Myself and a friend were looking at ways to sustain high speeds (mach 5+), we looked at all sorts of stuff, from these luftie 'UFO's' all the way to Hyper-X, now i guess i could show you my principal design..... all renders, never got it as far as my FS

quickrender.jpg


whaddyareckonnow.jpg


what you'll notice is the bulbous nose, there is a reason, see if you can all figure it out, i'm heading back to the design and gonna try and get it in Sim :icon_lol:

anyways, Germany did have a nuclear project if i recall one of the chief members defected during the war and went to work on the allies nuclear weapons program... but am unsure
 
FengZ said:
there are so many military stuff we don't know about. You can never confirm these type of stories.

A few years back, i had a student in my design class who worked for the USAF. His job was a to create "pitch paintings" - which was then used to sell the aircraft concept to the government for funding. For example, a nice shiny F-22 flying around in the clouds...or an A-10 blowing up some tanks. His security clearance was very high (since he knew about these projects waaaay before the public found out).

Anyways, i happen to flip through his sketchbook one day, and noticed some really weird designs. Unlike most of us (meaning designers like myself), who was raised on Star Wars, Aliens, Bladerunner, etc. and have a certain look in our work (sci-fi influenced), his designs were almost another world...completely weird technology but yet had a errie realism to them. I asked if he got these ideas from captured UFOs (as a joke), and he got all serious and said he didn't want to talk about it. I can only guess at the type of stuff he's seen....

-feng
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Comrade Feng,

I am pleased to offer you a crisp $50 bill for this....how you say....Sketchbook?

Regards,

Kilo Delta-ski




:icon_lol:
 
kilo delta said:
Comrade Feng,

I am pleased to offer you a crisp $50 bill for this....how you say....Sketchbook?

Regards,

Kilo Delta-ski




:icon_lol:
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lol, i wish i could have seen more of his sketchbook. He stopped bring it to class after that.

I can describe one of the sketches (man, i hope nobody is watching this..haha). It was a very long and thin beam, with two small spheres on both ends (almost like a stretched out classic dumbbell with small round weights). On both spheres were tiny observation windows....so the scale looks as long as a 757....of course just super thin. There were no visible engines or wings. He rendered it solid black except for the window area and drew a few hovering over a landscape....really errie.

anyways...weird huh? That's not your typical "sci-fi" spaceship design (in films/games, we typically have very distinct "front (cockpit)" and "back (engines)" on designs...so the general audience can quickly tell where the ship is pointed. These designs he drew would not work well inside a game/film...but yet they felt so realistic....so who knows what they are for....??

-feng
 
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