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What if.... Flight Suits.

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Lionheart

SOH-CM-2014
Hey all,


Here is a big 'What if....'

In the past, I was thinking how cool it would be to not require a plane to do freefall skydiving. What if you had a reloadable dry propellant rocket that would safely take you to say 4,000 or 7,000 feet, and nearly instantly, say 10 to 30 seconds, if that.

Then at altitude, you freefall, then pull your chute when its time.

No plane is needed... This would save you some funds (if the rocket cartridges were inexpensive enough).


Now.... Then think about a flying suit. Wings, very light, and if you could take off from the ground.. Think of a mix between Batman's little freefall flight suit where he can land safely after jumping from a building. But then add a way to take off.. (I have no idea.. I think a flapping powered drive would be the way to go, silent and easy). You could safely fly to work or just go for a flight...


Now.. (again) bare with me..

I just saw the previews for IronMan. At one point, 2 F-24's are chasing him at high altitude as he is out flying around. Very cool, looks crazy or too far fetched (for us now in these times). But what if...

If you could run a fuel and engines for extended periods of time, like a new fuel that is made from a heavy material, and it burns 10X longer, and 10X more powerful, you could possibly even leave the atmosphere. You could go to the space station in a simple space suit. You could 'leave' the space station in your suit and drop in at home..... If you could decellerate and not burn up in the re-entry.

I have been playing this new game, X3 Terran Conflict (or X3 TC for short). Great game. In it, you can leave your space craft and you have this cool EVA suit with small engines, etc. Seeing the Ironman teaser and thinking of that EVA suit and people doing freefall jumps from their front yards, had me thinking, lol...


What if...



Bill
 
I think the g-forces from such a rapid ascent may cause unconsciousness. Maybe you will wake up before you return to the earth. :kilroy:
 
If my calculations are correct, getting to 7,000 ft in 30 seconds would require only about half a g of constant acceleration. (I'm neglecting the ballistic effect at the end of the burn though). He also would need an aerodynamic shield of some sort for the ascent.

Someone IS working on free fall from space in a suit. :jump:

As for iron mans suit, he must have one hell of an energetic fuel for thin atmosphere operation and one hell of a power supply for lower altitude (or even more of the super fuel).
 
theres an answer to the fear of unconscious in Freefall its an AOD or Automatic Opening Device, automatically deploys the canopy at a preset altitude, if i recall the latest ones can even steer for you (means you can snack on HAHO jumps) 90miles on the end of a RAM Chute wreck your crown jewels a bit, yeah it's every die hard jumpers dream to beat Kittingers jump, 102,800 feet, at that altitude in the first 30 seonds your body passes the sound barrier, even i have my eyes fixed on beating that record, highest i've done is 28,750 from a charlie seventeen :icon_lol: there is a faster way to get that altitude Bill..... 1 word... Lightning :icon_lol::icon_lol: get the pilot to fashion you a nice new 'drop' tank with you inside, pilot climbs to 10,000ft then releases :icon_lol:
 
Smoothie said:
theres an answer to the fear of unconscious in Freefall its an AOD or Automatic Opening Device, automatically deploys the canopy at a preset altitude, if i recall the latest ones can even steer for you (means you can snack on HAHO jumps) 90miles on the end of a RAM Chute wreck your crown jewels a bit, yeah it's every die hard jumpers dream to beat Kittingers jump, 102,800 feet, at that altitude in the first 30 seonds your body passes the sound barrier, even i have my eyes fixed on beating that record, highest i've done is 28,750 from a charlie seventeen :icon_lol: there is a faster way to get that altitude Bill..... 1 word... Lightning :icon_lol::icon_lol: get the pilot to fashion you a nice new 'drop' tank with you inside, pilot climbs to 10,000ft then releases :icon_lol:
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Goodness! lol... That would be wild, 102,800 feet, lolol.. I remember seeing footage of that astronaught/pilot jumping from a weather balloon at ultra high altitude. Cant believe they did that.



The rocket idea was one that I invisioned being much slower and very safe. Something so totally failsafe that hopefully no one ever would have some odd mishap happen.


You look at Jules Vernes writings now and think, man he was so close. Then you look at Syd Meads concept art and think, wow, why arent they making these.. It would be awesome to see some really advanced 'wild' stuff come out. At least that one person with the flying suit (4 small jet turbines on a small folding wing, that a sky diver wears), did some pretty amazing feats like flying over the Alps, climbing and diving and landing smoothly, though it was with a chute.



Bill
 
Chacha said:
yeah...

What if....

We can fly like birds in the sky! :engel016:
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Beautiful thought, Chacha.
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See the latest mad sport - base jumpers in Norway with "wing suits" - "flying" as close as 3 metres over fairly level bits of mountain and brushing cliff sides with their fingertips...

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Just remember, if you get sucked into a jet engine, you pay for it!
LH,
How come I kept thinking of those old Road Runner cartoons while reading your post??
BEEP-BEEP!!
 
Easy. Just strap on to one of these babies.... (I love how you can see it break the sound barrier right after launch)

[YOUTUBE]959E5Oh7gPM[/YOUTUBE]


Of course you might want to let go at the top. This one's chute didn't open...
 
Dain Arns said:
Easy. Just strap on to one of these babies.... (I love how you can see it break the sound barrier right after launch)

[YOUTUBE]959E5Oh7gPM[/YOUTUBE]


Of course you might want to let go at the top. This one's chute didn't open...
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Dang... That is one wild custom rocket! lol..

Thanks for the heads up Dain.



How come I kept thinking of those old Road Runner cartoons while reading your post??
BEEP-BEEP!!

Piglet
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My dads fave cartoon. He ended up running the 'RoadRunner truckstop' back in the seventies.




Cbris,

Those guys are amazing.... Living life like those little Barn Swallow birds with swept wings and V-tails. They look like micro penguins with jet wings.

Great video...


Bill
 
CBris said:
See the latest mad sport - base jumpers in Norway with "wing suits" - "flying" as close as 3 metres over fairly level bits of mountain and brushing cliff sides with their fingertips...
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That, my friend, is a totally incredible YouTube clip.
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Can only imagine...
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I'm amazed that model rocketry on that scale is still allowed. I remember helping a friend with his model rocketry back when I was a teenager. He didn't do anything on that scale!
 
CBris said:
See the latest mad sport - base jumpers in Norway with "wing suits" - "flying" as close as 3 metres over fairly level bits of mountain and brushing cliff sides with their fingertips...

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Incredible Indeed!! :applause: :applause: :applause:

That is absototallylutely marvellous!!!:engel016:
 
stansdds said:
I'm amazed that model rocketry on that scale is still allowed. I remember helping a friend with his model rocketry back when I was a teenager. He didn't do anything on that scale!
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There is a show on Cable about pro rocket builder teams. They get together Nationally and have contest flights to see who can go the highest. Some never take off, some touch the edge of the atmosphere.

The thing that I cannot figure out, is how can they go that far up and land back in the same area, field, town, state. You have to realise that the Earth is rotating, winds that are high up, etc. How can they land within a quarter mile of the launch site??? Thats what bongles my mind.


Some of these guys make multi stage rockets. Well, they try, lol...


Bill
 
stansdds said:
I'm amazed that model rocketry on that scale is still allowed. I remember helping a friend with his model rocketry back when I was a teenager. He didn't do anything on that scale!
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Actually you would probably be more amazed at the amount of time (years), money (tens of thousands of dollar), training, certification tests, government red tape including dealing with the FAA and BATFE, those gentlemen had to go through to light off that single Q motor rocket. After that many hoops, it's not model rocketry at that point. :icon_lol:
 
Lionheart said:
There is a show on Cable about pro rocket builder teams. They get together Nationally and have contest flights to see who can go the highest. Some never take off, some touch the edge of the atmosphere.
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Well, guess you never saw the one that went to space (72 miles altitude) on May 17th, 2004, because the media never covered it...

[YOUTUBE]3f4Kml9dumI[/YOUTUBE]

Lionheart said:
The thing that I cannot figure out, is how can they go that far up and land back in the same area, field, town, state. You have to realise that the Earth is rotating, winds that are high up, etc. How can they land within a quarter mile of the launch site??? Thats what bongles my mind.


Some of these guys make multi stage rockets. Well, they try, lol...


Bill
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Usually separate into sections at the top, and then free fall back. Onboard altimeters that just weigh a couple ounces, tell the rocket to pop chutes about 1000' AGL. Small radio locators tell the recovery team where its at. Least thats they way it was done 10 years ago when I dabbled in the hobby.

[YOUTUBE]OF6mXq0NkNc[/YOUTUBE]
 
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