More CFS2 Weirdness

TARPSBird

TARPSBird

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I installed a new video card in my old computer and it apparently doesn't like CFS2 (see screenshots). Besides the bizarre video, when I select a plane they are all invisible with the exception of the old SB2U seen in the screenshots. I loaded updated drivers for the new card as soon as I installed it. FS9 runs OK with no video problems or invisible planes. Maybe I should re-load the older drivers I was using with the old card???
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That looks like a RAM issue. It appears that your RAM is lagging behind your vid.

Are you still running less than 1 gig of RAM on your machine?

I could be that your new Vid Card shares RAM with your system and is fighting with your CPU for resources.
 
DD, thanks for your response. I back-dated the drivers to what I was using with my old card and that resolved both the weird video and invisible plane problems. The new vid card also solved my previous invisible/partial texture problem from my other thread. The d-ware planes show up OK without my having to convert the textures :)
 
Devildog73 said:
That looks like a RAM issue. It appears that your RAM is lagging behind your vid.

Are you still running less than 1 gig of RAM on your machine?

I could be that your new Vid Card shares RAM with your system and is fighting with your CPU for resources.
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DD, need your advice on something:

I'm thinking of dedicating an Aopen 733 Mhz Pentium III entirely to CFS 1-2-3. I want to run Windows 98 on it because I can fix Windows 98, I can't work on XP. It's too delicate. The problem I am running into is that I'm going to go with one of the last 256 meg video cards(AGP bus) that supports 98 but have a 512 meg RAM limit due to 98 not being able to adress RAM above 512 meg. The computer flat flies, I do all my artwork illustrations for my horror fiction on it.

Am I shooting myself in the foot here, should I go with an XP machine and forget it, or does this sound like a good setup just for CFS 1-2-3?

Thanks

Tony
 
Hi TB,
I think it's more a card rendering issue and the fact that CFS2 is using settings from your old card.
I would uninstall both CFS2 and your card drivers. Then re-install the card with the default drivers on the disc that came with the card, do not update to newest...yet.
Then install CFS2 and tweak all the visual settings to your liking. If all's well and you've run CFS2 AND Fs9 runs well enough, then maybe try a newer driver, but it maybe that you've reached the upper limit of the spec of your pc. As before, RAM would benefit by installing more.
Sometimes if you go for a major upgrade on one component then the others fall behind and you end up playing catch-up with the others.

Cheers Shessi
 
Just going out on a limb here:

Yo TB:

Just going out on a limb here: You didn't mention what make or style of video card you now use.

Could it be an NVidia card? Did you use the updated drivers supplied at Microsoft?

If yes then this was the problem. The MS drivers simply do not work!
(originally noted by erufle about a year ago)

Get the updated drivers directly from the NVidia website.

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

Hope this helps you out Bro

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DD, need your advice on something:

I'm thinking of dedicating an Aopen 733 Mhz Pentium III entirely to CFS 1-2-3. I want to run Windows 98 on it because I can fix Windows 98, I can't work on XP. It's too delicate. The problem I am running into is that I'm going to go with one of the last 256 meg video cards(AGP bus) that supports 98 but have a 512 meg RAM limit due to 98 not being able to adress RAM above 512 meg. The computer flat flies, I do all my artwork illustrations for my horror fiction on it.

Am I shooting myself in the foot here, should I go with an XP machine and forget it, or does this sound like a good setup just for CFS 1-2-3?

Thanks

Tony
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Tony,

I am a fan of WIN98SE, so I am probably the wrong person to ask. If the site had not been attacked, there were some older threads where I clearly stated that I would hold out until the end against switching over to XP, then Vista.

I had a similar system to what you describe that I gave to Obio when I got my new computers. He had problems with it as he upgraded different cards, which is what I was running into.

Obio is probably the best guy to ask. He has been through the issues. It sounds to me like it will be a great setup. Just don't install SP4 for 98SE. That was ALWAYS where my problems started.
 
Devildog73 said:
Tony,

I am a fan of WIN98SE, so I am probably the wrong person to ask. If the site had not been attacked, there were some older threads where I clearly stated that I would hold out until the end against switching over to XP, then Vista.

I had a similar system to what you describe that I gave to Obio when I got my new computers. He had problems with it as he upgraded different cards, which is what I was running into.

Obio is probably the best guy to ask. He has been through the issues. It sounds to me like it will be a great setup. Just don't install SP4 for 98SE. That was ALWAYS where my problems started.
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We are brothers. I think DOS 6.22, Win 3.11 and Win 98 SE were the only two things Microsoft ever made worth having. I skipped right over 2000/ME, and the only reason I run XP on this notebook is because the computer itself is not 2000/ME friendly(next to no drivers for it). It does have a complete set of drivers for XP so I'm working with it.

I think I'm going to stick with the AOpen and Win98 and the 256 meg video card. This is a good motherboard and never gave me any AGP/PCI problems. I think the video card is an ATI I want and I've always had good luck with them.

I'm bypassing Windows 7 too. For the next 5-7 years we will be forced into 64 bit, I have Xp 64 bit. Bill Gates wanted to named Vista LONGHORN. My buddies call Vista Service Pack 4 for XP that cost 200 bucks and sucked.

I'm skipping Mac too. Apple is a gang of treehuggers who won;t service your Mac if you smoke, they say the residue is "toxic". It wasn't toxic for my Dad who only smoked for 56 years nor me who has only smoked for 38. I have an IMac is going out to the flea market, it's too incompatible with anything. I'm glad I never bought a Mac, they'd service it or they'd eat it.

Thanks buddy

Bones
 
Bones,
Shessi's correct with his comment about the tech level of new components sometimes exceeding the capabilities of your other components. For example, I have two perfectly good video cards here in the "man cave", one I bought and the other was kindly given to me by another SOH forum member three years ago. They are both AGP configured and should have worked fine in my old computer but they didn't. :banghead: Apparently my motherboard was too old and/or my power supply was inadequate. The vid card I'm using now is from another one of our helpful SOH crew and (as I mentioned earlier) works fine after I back-dated the drivers. I have maxed out the RAM so what I have now is pretty much as good as it gets.
And I second Dirtman's recommendation that if you use Nvidia cards always get your driver updates from the Nvidia website vice Microsoft. And always set a restore point in your system before you install/un-install drivers for any component.
 
Tarps

Tarps;
that looks like a problem that I had on my old rig that had a Voodoo 5000 on it with 98SE. It basicly boiled down to increasing the RAM of the computer and on the card resetting the cache. Just a suggestion
 
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