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One less drunk on the road

harleyman said:
GOOD..

I hate drunk drivers..

Even though years ago I was that guy !:pop4:
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When you and I were driving drunk there were only about 1/3 the cars on the road they have today. Not that it was right or smart. Today, the chance of an accident is must worse.
 
I'm glad you reported the drunk driver OBIO!

I don't know about the US but in the UK the word "retard" is only used by the linguistically challenged and is considered deeply offensive.
 
In response to a previous post most of these repeate offenders are not allowed to drive, they simply drive illegally anything on wheels they can get. But one could say that the weak system allows them to drive by not being effective. I often think that legislators just don't want to stiffen laws that would likely catch themselves most nights.
I was also taken by how many here said they had or used to drive under the influence but managed to get straightened out. I wag my wings to all those who managed this accomplishment. EtOH addiction is a fearsome predator that waits behind every glass for these folks. The determination and resolve needed to resist every day is inspiring indeed. Hell, here's a victory roll for ya!:salute:

Quick edit-I was not implying that all posters here were that far gone. I was refering to anyone who has either found their way back or just was able to out-grow a phase or otherwise keep things under control and have a more or less normal life. No slighting intended.
 
Lynch 'em! I'm speaking as a close friend of a fine young nurse who's life was ended on a cold winter night by a 4 time offender driving while under suspension........
 
Good show OBIO. I've always thought about just marking the license plate of convicted DUI driver's cars, all of them in the family. You get a DUI and your car's tag receives a single red stripe diagonally across it, the same for your wife's car and your child's. That way any vehicle you are likely to be driving carries a warning to other drivers that you are potentially a callous and reckless individual with little regard for human life and that you should be watched. If you don't want one on you wife's or child's car, that solution is simple, don't drink and drive. DUH
 
Ken Stallings said:
Ah, well, while I respect her point of view, to me there's a world of difference using it in the context we have vice a clinical context. :engel016:

Cheers,

Ken
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that was actually kinda funny, the palin thing. :icon_lol:

however, in the spirit of clarity, i post a pic of my older brother.
he's severely retarded, but i wouldn't call him a retard.
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cheezyflier said:
that was actually kinda funny, the palin thing. :icon_lol:

however, in the spirit of clarity, i post a pic of my older brother.
he's severely retarded, but i wouldn't call him a retard.
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Don't sweat it!

I think we have a couple of folks here engaging in hyper-sensitivity. It's their right, but it's sort of the adage that if you point a finger at someone, it means you have three more pointed back at yourself.

Ken
 
CADFather said:
Good show OBIO. I've always thought about just marking the license plate of convicted DUI driver's cars, all of them in the family. You get a DUI and your car's tag receives a single red stripe diagonally across it, the same for your wife's car and your child's. That way any vehicle you are likely to be driving carries a warning to other drivers that you are potentially a callous and reckless individual with little regard for human life and that you should be watched. If you don't want one on you wife's or child's car, that solution is simple, don't drink and drive. DUH
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I don't agree with that practice. I firmly believe you sanction the criminal and only the criminal. Family in America is never guilty by mere association. That's been a hallmark of jurisprudence in the United States since inception of the nation and I find this practice to violate that vital point.

Cheers,

Ken
 
Ken Stallings said:
I don't agree with that practice. I firmly believe you sanction the criminal and only the criminal. Family in America is never guilty by mere association. That's been a hallmark of jurisprudence in the United States since inception of the nation and I find this practice to violate that vital point.

Cheers,

Ken
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Here in Minnesota they mark the plates of DUI drivers,I can't remember the exact letter the plate starts with but it tells law enforcement that the person has been convicted of DUI and allows them to be pulled over and checked at any time.I assume that is part of the deal when they get their license back.It is a very unobtrusive,I had no idea until my girlfriend pointed it out to me.:USA-flag:
 
safn1949 said:
Here in Minnesota they mark the plates of DUI drivers,I can't remember the exact letter the plate starts with but it tells law enforcement that the person has been convicted of DUI and allows them to be pulled over and checked at any time.I assume that is part of the deal when they get their license back.It is a very unobtrusive,I had no idea until my girlfriend pointed it out to me.:USA-flag:
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I am against drunk driving but how much public humiliation does a person have to endure for their offense? DUI license plates not only make a person and their family members vulnerable to harrassment by any cop with nothing better to do, they put them at risk for confrontations with other drivers. There's enough road rage out there already without generating more with license plates that invite assaults and vandalism.
 
A few years ago, here in Mansfield OH, there was a drunk driving caused accident in which a young wife and her unborn near-term child were killed when their car was T-Boned by a car driven by a 19 year old whose blood alcohol was WAY over the legal limit...not to mention that he was under the legal drinking age. His punishment: 4 months in county jail and 1 year of drug and alcohol counseling. This punk killed two people and got off basically scott free....no felony vehicular manslaughter charges, no loss of his driver's license. 4 months in county jail and some AA attendance. When I read the sentence in the local paper, I was floored.

OBIO
 
I suspect that for every DUI offender who gets their just punishment there's another who gets off easy when they shouldn't. That's just the nature of the legal system and the differences from state to state. Not a perfect situation but I wouldn't want the federal government meddling in local court decisions.
Obio, in the case of the young man you mentioned I find it hard to believe that he would still be allowed to drive after his incident. Also keep in mind that regardless of the disposition of his DUI offense he would also likely be facing a subsequent civil suit brought by the deceased woman's family. Basically he's screwed for a long time into his adult life, even though additional jail time is not involved.
 
TARPSBird said:
I am against drunk driving but how much public humiliation does a person have to endure for their offense? DUI license plates not only make a person and their family members vulnerable to harrassment by any cop with nothing better to do, they put them at risk for confrontations with other drivers. There's enough road rage out there already without generating more with license plates that invite assaults and vandalism.
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How much humiliation? Enough to realize that actions have consequences, way to go Minnesota good on ya. The punishment should fit the crime and this is a good start, don't wanna be harassed by the popo or picked on by the other kids in the play ground, don't get a DUI conviction.
 
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