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I have all those you mentioned. It is fine to buy one or two of the Carenado planes, but to buy more than that makes you foolish. They are all too similar. My other planes are perfectly FPS friendly so that isn't a valid arguement.
 
Rezabrya said:
I It is fine to buy one or two of the Carenado planes, but to buy more than that makes you foolish.
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Very disrespectful.
The work they put into these, I appreciate them...I think they're beautiful..
 
Rezabrya said:
I have all those you mentioned. It is fine to buy one or two of the Carenado planes, but to buy more than that makes you foolish. They are all too similar. My other planes are perfectly FPS friendly so that isn't a valid arguement.
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Hu ?

I'll agree that they're all alike , in that they're all high quality.. but every one is as unique as their real counter-parts.
 
Rezabrya said:
I have all those you mentioned. It is fine to buy one or two of the Carenado planes, but to buy more than that makes you foolish. They are all too similar. My other planes are perfectly FPS friendly so that isn't a valid arguement.
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Not foolish if you like the similarities, it's what makes the plane a plane from Carenado. I for one, want to know what to expect , and it's those same simliarities that give me what I expect. A detailed model, both inside and out that still gives me great performance and great textures are what I look for in an addon most and they deliver everytime for me, so add me to the foolish list also, LOL:salute:
 
I will move into the fools line. I have, let's see, the Mentor, C-182RG, C-206, Piper Saratoga, and Mooney. Oh, and, I am not even a GA fan.

The Carenado aircraft are simple. GA aircraft are also simple. Seems like they match.
 
Rezabrya said:
I have all those you mentioned. It is fine to buy one or two of the Carenado planes, but to buy more than that makes you foolish. They are all too similar. My other planes are perfectly FPS friendly so that isn't a valid arguement.
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That's strange, I don't find the Bonanza panel to look anything at all like the Piper panels or Cessna panels. Looks like totally different gauges to me.. then again maybe it's the "fool" in me not letting me see the similarities :icon_lol:


Darrell
 
ryanbatc said:
Yeah it's true they tend to reuse some gauges/radios but a lot of those older vintage GA planes look exactly like the Carenado models/VC's.
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That's exactly right! A Bendix-King KX-155 looks exactly the same nestled in a Cessna 172 as it does a Cessna 310R!

Cheers,

Ken
 
You can see my reply above and I am absolutely for their work but I did notice the attitude indicator in that Bonanza looks exactly like the one in my Seneca hehe.... Maybe there were similar for those two models. I don't have any RW experience in that PA34 or BE33
 
<--- moves to the fools line, or other wise known Carenado Enthusiasts line.


If I could, I think I would own them all. Super high quality. If you know your Cessna's and Pipers, etc, you know the mild subtle differences; airspeeds, stalls, gauges, color schemes inside, sounds, etc.. Similar to comparing old and modern Grand Am's.



Bill
 
ryanbatc said:
You can see my reply above and I am absolutely for their work but I did notice the attitude indicator in that Bonanza looks exactly like the one in my Seneca hehe.... Maybe there were similar for those two models. I don't have any RW experience in that PA34 or BE33
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Ryan, I am not sure if you are talking "Tongue-in-cheek" or not. :) So, I will answer the question as if it is real. Even if you were being "Tongue-in-cheek" maybe someone else will benefit from the answer.

The reason most GA aircraft have gauges that look the same is that only two or three companies built most of the analog gauges that went into legacy GA aircraft. Also, GA panels have been more or less standardized for over 40 years, so they will look very much the same.

Real world pilots like that. Familiarity is comforting and safer. When things start to go to $hit in a handbag, you don't want to be searching for gauges in a strange cockpit.

BTW- As a side note, American military aircraft (I don't know about others) also had standard gauges in the cockpits. I remember the engine gauges, ADI, and HSI that were in the T-38 were also in the B-52 and F-4. I know they were in a lot of the other military aircraft of my day.
 
jmig said:
The reason most GA aircraft have gauges that look the same is that only two or three companies built most of the analog gauges that went into legacy GA aircraft. Also, GA panels have been more or less standardized for over 40 years, so they will look very much the same.
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Hey yeah I was asking a real question there.... I forgot about that very aspect.... great point and probably explains a lot. I also looked on a.net and there were a few variates of gauges, but not that many.
 
Speaking of that, the Germans in WWII basically standardized all their gauges, even giving them exact serial numbers. Very few differences (though some) on the various faces. I guess this was so you could get into any Luftwaffe plane and know exactly what was what, and students learned with the same gauges that most fighters and bombers had.


With American General Aviation, you will have a common pattern of basic gauges in a common layout, nicknamed the '6-pack', (ASI, VSI, Altimeter, etc).
 
The standard GA steam gauge layout is termed "the Piper six pack." This is because Piper was first to use the layout where the airspeed gauge went into the upper left, the artificial horizon center top, the altimeter upper right, the turn coordinator lower left, the directional gyro (or HSI) center bottom, and the vertical velocity indicator lower right.

The reason the same gauges were used was rightly attributed to the limited number of companies who make certificated flight instruments and avionics.

One more vital point. Carenado also does outstanding flight models. Their T-34 Mentor was the first GA aircraft in FS2004 to properly replicate the characteristic high wing drop resulting from a power on or power off stall while in a turn. Since then, I have seen a few other design studios get this right. But Carenado was the first to replicate it.

If you didn't fly actual GA aircraft, you'd have no idea this was wrong or right, and I suspect to those who did not know, they might think it strange. I can understand that as the first time I did a stall in a turn it shocked the pee-total crap out of me when that high wing dropped down like a stone!

Cheers,

Ken
 
I'd say their FDE's are poor generally. The Arrow and Seneca initial releases were way off. They patched the PA34 so it's a bit better but generally is still not flying more realistically.
 
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