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It's a Victory...and it's Epic!
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Roger
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krazycolin
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Ken Stallings
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Bill,
I am curious. In your research on this virtual aircraft, what did you learn with regard to the location of the nacelle intake what did Epic say about concern for a compressor stall while in high alpha?
Cheers,
Ken
I am curious. In your research on this virtual aircraft, what did you learn with regard to the location of the nacelle intake what did Epic say about concern for a compressor stall while in high alpha?
Cheers,
Ken
Hey Ken,
I didnt ask.
On a side note, I see many aircraft doing this. The Cirrus jet, the Boeing Bird of Prey concept fighter, the concept stealth thing that looks like a flying sub, for a few. I guess if they arent pulling 6 g's, they should be safe, I would think, at least on an executive jet. Dont want to spill those drinks in the back.
I heard once that an airliner, cruising at 40,000 feet, had a sudden dual engine flameout. They had intercepted a high speed 'oddity' jet stream that actually pushed them so hard, it knocked the flame out of the combuster chamber of the turbines. They did a slight dive and got the turbines restarted.
So I think any turbine 'could' be susceptible to a compressor stall even from behind. But again, I am not an engineer. Just a humble polybender recreating planes for FS.
Great pics Roger!
I wonder why the overhead carbon fiber cieling panel turned out milky looking? It should be shiny and very dark black.
Bill
I didnt ask.
On a side note, I see many aircraft doing this. The Cirrus jet, the Boeing Bird of Prey concept fighter, the concept stealth thing that looks like a flying sub, for a few. I guess if they arent pulling 6 g's, they should be safe, I would think, at least on an executive jet. Dont want to spill those drinks in the back.
I heard once that an airliner, cruising at 40,000 feet, had a sudden dual engine flameout. They had intercepted a high speed 'oddity' jet stream that actually pushed them so hard, it knocked the flame out of the combuster chamber of the turbines. They did a slight dive and got the turbines restarted.
So I think any turbine 'could' be susceptible to a compressor stall even from behind. But again, I am not an engineer. Just a humble polybender recreating planes for FS.
Great pics Roger!
I wonder why the overhead carbon fiber cieling panel turned out milky looking? It should be shiny and very dark black.
Bill
Looking like a real winner Bill 
Tho I am kinda hooked on the LT's great short takeoff and landing capabilities as well as its long legs but this Victory sure looks slick. lol i would wonder taking it off in the rain like that worrying about the rain getting sucked into that intake and causing a flameout hehe but i gues thats why you turn your ignitors on on takeoff lol. I think the ceiling looks fine, almost looks like a dark grey cloth material, seems like that would make for good sound dampening.
Cheers
TJ
Tho I am kinda hooked on the LT's great short takeoff and landing capabilities as well as its long legs but this Victory sure looks slick. lol i would wonder taking it off in the rain like that worrying about the rain getting sucked into that intake and causing a flameout hehe but i gues thats why you turn your ignitors on on takeoff lol. I think the ceiling looks fine, almost looks like a dark grey cloth material, seems like that would make for good sound dampening.Cheers
TJ
Hey TJ,
Roger that. :d
The overhead thing is like a surfboard sort of panel, made of shiny Carbon Fiber that has a glass like plastic finish on it. Its not supposed to look like fabric. At first, I dialed in too much reflection and it got all crazy looking with birzzaro reflections, so I changed the material settings for something alot different.
Its a shame that you cant see the carbon fiber cloth like texture in the nose and engine compartments. I was really proud of that. Really clear in Gmax, but in FSX, its almost invisible.
The Epic LT is HUGE compared to the Victory. It dwarfs the little bird. Did you know the LT can fly faster then the Victory? The wings are a slower design and can only take 320 to 340 Knots. The Epic is cleared for 350 knots and have been able to break 500 knots 'actual'. The LT is a very powerful plane.
EDIT: Sorry, I selected almost identical screenshots of the match. I cant delete one.
Bill
Roger that. :d
The overhead thing is like a surfboard sort of panel, made of shiny Carbon Fiber that has a glass like plastic finish on it. Its not supposed to look like fabric. At first, I dialed in too much reflection and it got all crazy looking with birzzaro reflections, so I changed the material settings for something alot different.
Its a shame that you cant see the carbon fiber cloth like texture in the nose and engine compartments. I was really proud of that. Really clear in Gmax, but in FSX, its almost invisible.
The Epic LT is HUGE compared to the Victory. It dwarfs the little bird. Did you know the LT can fly faster then the Victory? The wings are a slower design and can only take 320 to 340 Knots. The Epic is cleared for 350 knots and have been able to break 500 knots 'actual'. The LT is a very powerful plane.
EDIT: Sorry, I selected almost identical screenshots of the match. I cant delete one.
Bill
lol yeah looks like the LT needs that prop clearence, thus needs some long legs. I agree its hard to really show the proper 'shine' of a particular material. That was going to be my only 'gripe' about the LT was in some lighting the seats had kind of a shinier 'viynl' look as compared to maybe a duller reflection of leather...will just say you put a lot of Armor-All on the seats :d. Sometimes my leather miata seats get that very shiny vinyl look if i really polish them. I don't do that much cause I end up sliding all over the seat when I drive LOL. But the seat 'shine' is splitting hairs lol, the LT is an outstanding and wonderful airplane and it looks like the Victory will be a very worthy sibling I hope you are eventualy able to apply any G1000 system enhancments youve developed for the Victory to the LT and Kodiak.
I hope you are eventualy able to apply any G1000 system enhancments youve developed for the Victory to the LT and Kodiak.I can see how the LT would be a faster aircraft, lots of power, very light. I read about that Epic 500 club, sort of a play on the Eclipse 500, but really it is Epic owners who have pushed 500kts groundspeed in their LTs.
You know somthing that would be really cool if you can swing it is to somehow link the onboard 'satellite radio' to play streaming radio via a text file that you could plug in the stream URLs or pls files. Have room for say a dozen or so and be able to use the change station switch to cycle through your selection like it currently does for the wav files. Tho you would probably have to have it play via your default media player. Oh well, looking foward to the Victory
Cheers
TJ
TJ
warchild
Charter Member
With that high T tail, i think i'd worry more about Hi AOA stalls before id worry about flameouts..
Bill, i know you proably wont know this as no one can read minds, but looking at the overall design of the fuselage, it seems to me that at least the fuselage design is an advancement of the starship design, only with more conventional empenage and tail.
Bill, i know you proably wont know this as no one can read minds, but looking at the overall design of the fuselage, it seems to me that at least the fuselage design is an advancement of the starship design, only with more conventional empenage and tail.
Sundog
SOH-CM-2025
Hi Ken,
I wouldn't expect these to be any worse than, say a 727, DC-10 or L-1011. However, I do have some military design studies for high alpha dorsal inlets and a Northrop PDF of one of their experiments regarding these inlets at high alpha for their VATOL design for the U.S. Navy.
Also, with the newer engine technology, the engines are much more tolerant of flow disturbances at the inlet. If you would like, I could ask the designer of the Victory how much of a concern it was, as he frequents a website I go to and I've spoken to him a few times online before. He's a really nice guy.
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harleyman
Guest
Great Shots...Beautiful Bird..
I too was lucky enough to get to test his kodiak..
i am a horrible tester
At best I sucked...lol
Bill...NO NO NO
i am buying this bad boy...... What a sleek design she has....
I too was lucky enough to get to test his kodiak..
i am a horrible tester
At best I sucked...lol
Bill...NO NO NO
i am buying this bad boy...... What a sleek design she has....
Nice paints, I like that black one a lot! Shame it will probably never happen in real life.
Gotta be faithful Ferry. Gotta be faithful.
:d
Hey SunDog,
Sounds like you know Luc. Awesome guy. I hope to get with him more on some designs.
Where does he hang out at? Tell him to get over here...
Hey WarChild,
I dont know about the StarShip. I do know that I still cant get enough of the design. I still blank out and sit stairing at the nose, the curve that goes from the nose over the perspex, the Formula One scoop, the rake of the wings, the front low angle 3/4 view when in flight...
I have had to wash alot of shirts from uncontrolled druel.
They did an awesome job designing this plane. I hope its back into production soon.
Nick C.
Great screenshots Sir. Thanks for doing the photo shoot on the Victory.
For all of you developers, this is the guy for screenshots of your new release. His shots are amazing. Resolution, angles, lighting, everything. He is also a real world photographer, so that helps him to set up a good background and all.
Bill