FSD Announces Bonanza V-35B!

tigisfat said:
Guys, there is an old and a new FSD.
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Purely judging from their website (I do not own any FSD products), I doubt if there is much difference. I don't really understand, how difficult is it to get a face lift?

Anyway, back to Bonanza, I'm not deciding until I see Carenado's.
 
(I had the Forestry ones too but the Taxi was always my favourite :applause: )
 
dominique said:
It's a little sad to see that when an old and respected house like FSD announces a wonderful 'cult' aircraft, the first reactions of some is to belittle the announcement in favor of a non existent competition (nothing against Carenado).
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Agreed..
 
Speaking of Carenado, I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd love to see an Aerotaxi C185 Float :mixedsmi:
 
dominique said:
... It's a little sad to see that when an old and respected house like FSD announces a wonderful 'cult' aircraft, the first reactions of some is to belittle the announcement in favor of a non existent competition (nothing against Carenado).
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Very true, I've had my problems in the past with FSD and won't buy from them anymore, but it had nothing to do with the quality of their products, just the way they do business. This looks to be a terrific version of the V-35 and should be very successful.

I find it funny that some of the folks in here are saying they want to wait to see the Carenado version. As far as I know, unless they have inside information that isn't even eluded to on their website, Carenado isn't working on a V-tail for FSX (yet). They're advertising the completely revamped 33, but that's it. You might have a long wait, as the 33 isn't even supposed to be available until late 2010.
 
falcon409 said:
Very true, I've had my problems in the past with FSD and won't buy from them anymore, but it had nothing to do with the quality of their products, just the way they do business. This looks to be a terrific version of the V-35 and should be very successful.

I find it funny that some of the folks in here are saying they want to wait to see the Carenado version. As far as I know, unless they have inside information that isn't even eluded to on their website, Carenado isn't working on a V-tail for FSX (yet). They're advertising the completely revamped 33, but that's it. You might have a long wait, as the 33 isn't even supposed to be available until late 2010.
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No they haven't said they will do it yet but given that they did one for FS9 very soon after the F33 and given that they have released almost every single aircraft they did for FS9 in FSX it would be astonishing if they didn't. In fact I would put my house on it. I'm not sure where you got the end of 2010 from but it has been mentioned in another forum that the F33 is due out by the end of the month. Add a month to that just to be sure and that's a lot sooner than the end of the year. Do we know when the FSD version is coming out?
 
6297J said:
. . . .I'm not sure where you got the end of 2010 from but it has been mentioned in another forum that the F33 is due out by the end of the month. Add a month to that just to be sure and that's a lot sooner than the end of the year.
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Gee, I stand corrected, it says 2nd quarter of 2010. . .so June. . .maybe. Then, if they're secretly working on the V-35, it could be out by late August. If they're not, then sometime in 2011. By then folks who wanted to wait for the Carenado version to make a decision will have bought the FSD version because they got tired of waiting, lol.

Or, since I'm just an old fart and don't know what I'm talking about, I could just be full of it and only playing devil's advocate.:icon_twi:
 
falcon409 said:
By then folks who wanted to wait for the Carenado version to make a decision will have bought the FSD version because they got tired of waiting, lol.
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I personally wouldn't buy the FSD one, regardless of the Carenado situation. Firstly, I am not impressed by those preview shots at all (funky MDL glow in particular). Secondly, I've heard more than enough negative comments about FSD over the years (from close friends and old timers that I trust) that it'd be against my common sense risking my money. Carenado poeple on the other hand, have never disappointed me. Owned their FS9 Bonanza and it was joy to fly. If and when it's out, I would happily buy it.

Still, as I mentioned before, I've never owned any FSD products. So my judgement may very well be poor. I don't mean to start a flame war or anything. Just explaining why they should tick off at least one customer off their list.
 
6297J said:
Do we know when the FSD version is coming out?
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...I believe (and don't quote me on this) but I think it is being released this week...they had a 'guess the aircraft' contest not too long ago, and I seem to remember there being a specific date attached for the release of the 'new plane'...the 8th of April comes to mind....
 
Well by old FSD and new FSD there actually is a difference. The YF-23, P-38, and Cirrus Vision were collaborations with us (Milviz). We made the models and they did all the systems programming. We have not had involvement with their V35B. V-tail certaintly makes it look interesting though. Just smaller GA birds aren't my normal purchase.
 
It was stated...

...in writing only recently that FSD offer a full money-back guarantee. As Carenado DON'T, and never have, I fail to see how buying the FSD is `risky` and buying a non-existent, non-refundable product from another vendor with a less than stellar reputation for customer support isn't.

However, judged on the screen previews on the FSD, I shan't be going near that anytime soon unless the price is around half what they've been charging for recent releases. Qualitatively, Carenado kick 'em where it hurts on the visual stakes, and the VC for me has the look of a `Lite`, rather than full payware, aircraft.

If the price reflects that, and FSD maintain their refund policy then it's a possible, once the fps results are in - the last release of theirs I purchased was the Commander, and I get ONE THIRD the fps out of that than I do from the A2A B17 - and frankly Accusim pees on any realism in flight modelling that FSD have come up with in the last five years. So they have to buck up their game substantially to entice me in as a customer again.
 
Kiwikat said:
Based on how others are responding to criticism on this thread, I'm not going to answer that.

Or did I just answer...?


There's a Carenado Bonanza in my future. :kilroy:
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At least when you speak out with negative reviews, the lynch mob doesn't show up for you. I've been flat out shocked before; I spoke out against a few products that were utter garbage and was treated like a dissenting maniac.:icon_lol:
 
dominique said:
Bad vibes as we used to say... It's a little sad to see that when an old and respected house like FSD announces a wonderful 'cult' aircraft, the first reactions of some is to belittle the announcement in favor of a non existent competition (nothing against Carenado).

Let me bring GOOD vibes. Every aircraft I bought from FSD had top notch VC and FDE. Never felt harassed by the installation. Way to go FSD, thanks for bringing to us the Bonanza, your efforts are appreciated ! !
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Amen!

I was thinking along this line, but I think you said it well indeed.

Cheers,

Ken
 
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