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OT: Here's a story to make you go WOW!

Snuffy

Snuffy

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It would appear that certain groups of people need to mind their own business and accept when someone says "No." rather than feel that they know better than the one with the problem.

I'm not saying the eleven year old and her mother are right, but I'm not agreeing with the other group that wants to force their views on the pair either.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/04/23/year-old-mexican-rape-victim-wants-baby/

And lets keep the comments civil. ;)
 
Yeah, wow...

No winners in this story. I was a one time psych major in college a bazillion decades ago but I still can't fathom why anyone would be interested in an 11 year old girl.....If DNA testing shows the step-dad is the the father he needs to go away for a while...quite a while.
 
hmmm,

that's a rough one. I don't even know what to think. Abortion laws aside, I think that if they are very firmly catholic (or any religion that doesn't allow abortion), then she and her mother should be allowed to make the final decision. It appears they've already made up their minds. The idea of an eleven year old girl is appalling, but being angry about it over the internet doesn't stop her from being pregnant. Someone forcing her to have an abortion is as bad as the rape itself. Abortions, if not thought through, are proven to have devastating effects on women.


I'm just happy the girl's mother is stepping up to the plate. In some 3rd world countries a young woman that's gotten pregnant by any means can be cast out onto the streets.



The best thing to do is to leave them the hell alone.
 
with the exception of the stepfather
its none of our business or anyone elses thats a personal decision
but i do believe the stepfather should go bye bye for a while
just my opinion
anyone know his IP:salute:
H
 
religious beliefs aside, (seeing as how such a discussion is not allowed here) abortion is murder.
the argument about wether life begins at conception or after is moot. ever see a dead cell grow, or multiply?
of course not. only live cells do that. so, if what is, at conception alive, and it's a person, abortion is murder.
is there ever a point where it's ok to murder someone? well, that's between you and your beliefs. whatever they may be. but the facts are what the facts are.
 
cheezyflier said:
religious beliefs aside, (seeing as how such a discussion is not allowed here) abortion is murder.
the argument about wether life begins at conception or after is moot. ever see a dead cell grow, or multiply?
of course not. only live cells do that. so, if what is, at conception alive, and it's a person, abortion is murder.
is there ever a point where it's ok to murder someone? well, that's between you and your beliefs. whatever they may be. but the facts are what the facts are.
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Had a shave recently?

Mass murderer.

Facts are definately not facts in this instance.
 
Henry said:
with the exception of the stepfather
its none of our business or anyone elses thats a personal decision
but i do believe the stepfather should go bye bye for a while
just my opinion
anyone know his IP:salute:
H
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You are absolutely right Henry:salute::salute::salute:
 
If it was up to me, provided the stepfather is guilty of rape, I would make sure he never rapped another woman. And, I don't mean chemicals.
 
jmig said:
If it was up to me, provided the stepfather is guilty of rape, I would make sure he never rapped another woman. And, I don't mean chemicals.
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yes, rapping is a crime whether it's done to a man or woman, and especially if recorded. I'd like to make sure it never happens again to me, but there's just so much of it I'm overwhelmed.

:173go1::salute:
 
Skittles said:
Had a shave recently?

Mass murderer.

Facts are definately not facts in this instance.
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i hope your not serious. since when can you take hair, put it next to something else and it will crawl inside of it and make a complex bio machine? you can't. no matter how much you disagree with me, it's not the same thing. you'll need to do better than that.
 
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I'm taking the radio down the basement and I'll wait this one out. Hopefully I'll be able to hear the all-clear siren and I can help with the post-battle recon. There's gonna be a mess after this one.
 
And if the DNA test they intend to do immediately after birth clears the stepfather of rape ?? The infant should be immediately taken under state care and given up for adoption. What kind of chance will this infant have with an 11 year old mother corrupt enough to falsely accuse a man of that crime?

There was no question of, nor intent to force an abortion on this girl. It may have been an option very early in the pregnancy but not after the first trimester.
 
Following your line of thinking Toastie ... I have to say one thing at this point in time.

IF he's innocent, its too late now, he'll be labeled as a child molester for the rest of his life ... (provided they have that sort of thing in Mexico.)
 
cheezyflier said:
i hope your not serious. since when can you take hair, put it next to something else and it will crawl inside of it and make a complex bio machine? you can't. no matter how much you disagree with me, it's not the same thing. you'll need to do better than that.
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Depending on the term of pregnancy, the foetus is nothing more than a collection of dividing cells. No sentience, no feelings, no structure, no intelligence, no different from common bacteria. An ant has more intelligence and sentience than a foetus for huge periods of time during a pregnancy.

Destroying these cells is no different to eradicating a bacteria. It doesn't matter in the slightest that these cells could go on to create life. Every month a woman flushes her uterus of plenty of cells that would develope into life. Every few hours a man ejects plenty of cells that would develop into life given the chance (ha). Life is 'created' in neither instance. It is already there. getting pregnant just mixes things around into a big mush of cells. There IS an instant in the pregnancy when a foetus gains 'life', by our definition of the term, but to kill the cells in the early stages of the pregnancy is no worse than using alcohol rub on your hands.

Foetal cells in their primitive state, which they are through long periods of the pregnancy, are no different to bacteria in any way shape or form.
 
Yes, Snuffy, they certainly do have that designation in Mexico as they have a huge problem with domestic violence and child abuse. If he's exonerated and released though, he won't have too much of a social problem.
 
I cannot see how anyone outside that family is the least qualified to enter into the situation. Especially to show up at their home with such enticement to pressure the child to do it their way smacks of arrogance run to an extreme level.

This is for the family to decide as they see best able.

The mother showed her concern by having the step father immediately arrested.

Perhaps the mother and the young daughter believe firmly that the only way this criminal action results in anything positive is by rearing the child. If that is their sincere decision, I feel myself completely unqualified to tell them they are wrong!

Ken
 
Skittles said:
Depending on the term of pregnancy, the foetus is nothing more than a collection of dividing cells. No sentience, no feelings, no structure, no intelligence, no different from common bacteria. An ant has more intelligence and sentience than a foetus for huge periods of time during a pregnancy.

Destroying these cells is no different to eradicating a bacteria. It doesn't matter in the slightest that these cells could go on to create life. Every month a woman flushes her uterus of plenty of cells that would develope into life. Every few hours a man ejects plenty of cells that would develop into life given the chance (ha). Life is 'created' in neither instance. It is already there. getting pregnant just mixes things around into a big mush of cells. There IS an instant in the pregnancy when a foetus gains 'life', by our definition of the term, but to kill the cells in the early stages of the pregnancy is no worse than using alcohol rub on your hands.

Foetal cells in their primitive state, which they are through long periods of the pregnancy, are no different to bacteria in any way shape or form.
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Comparing human life in any stage to bacteria is frankly shocking.

To me, human life has considerably more meaning and relevancy no matter its stage of development.

Ken
 
Skittles said:
Depending on the term of pregnancy, the foetus is nothing more than a collection of dividing cells. No sentience, no feelings, no structure, no intelligence, no different from common bacteria. An ant has more intelligence and sentience than a foetus for huge periods of time during a pregnancy.

Destroying these cells is no different to eradicating a bacteria. It doesn't matter in the slightest that these cells could go on to create life. Every month a woman flushes her uterus of plenty of cells that would develope into life. Every few hours a man ejects plenty of cells that would develop into life given the chance (ha). Life is 'created' in neither instance. It is already there. getting pregnant just mixes things around into a big mush of cells. There IS an instant in the pregnancy when a foetus gains 'life', by our definition of the term, but to kill the cells in the early stages of the pregnancy is no worse than using alcohol rub on your hands.

Foetal cells in their primitive state, which they are through long periods of the pregnancy, are no different to bacteria in any way shape or form.
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Perhaps you'd like to take that statement and define in particular when a strand of DNA that is living at the time prioir to conception dies and then comes back to life again?

Thanks for your insight on the next answer.

Pst. BTW, its spelled Fetus .. and Fetal
 
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