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Poor Brett Michaels

tigisfat said:
Do you feel bad for him? There's something about a washed up, conceited, drugged out, makeup wearing has-been that makes me cringe. This clown has no sense of reality. Why is this headline news? Am I supposed to care at all?

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Wellness/...ull-recovery-dangers-remain/story?id=10482682
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I'm not aware that Bret Michaels has done anything evil in this life. And other than him being a singer for a rock band, I have no insights into his lifestyle. I do not know for a fact if he's been a drug addict, but even if he were, it should not change a simple human compassion for someone in the hospital with a critical condition.

Whether you care at all is frankly your personal choice.

But, the fact is that I do care in the same sense that I care about all human beings. Unless you can show me someone who has brought evil and suffering upon other innocent people, I shall always reserve sympathy for an adverse situation and sincerely wish him well.

Ken
 
tigisfat said:
That's a decent sentiment, but if you or I had such a medical problem, it wouldn't be national news.
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No, it was more than merely "decent." It was actually humane, which I think is a rather important human characteristic to possess willingly.

If you think I'm drawing a negative reaction here, then you would be correct.

Ken
 
TARPSBird said:
I fear Lindsey Lohan is one of the front-runners in the "Celebrity Dead Pool" within the next year or so. :frown:
This recent picture of her suggests she's already got one foot in the grave.
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Sad situation, no doubt. From what I understand she had a very unpleasant childhood even before she became an actress.

Ken
 
djscoo said:
You could technically listen to the radio or watch broadcast TV if you wanted to.Viewership/audience is determined by a very few who represent your region as a whole. It doesn't matter if you never turn your TV on, because you are being represented by the people who do watch TV, and report to ACNeilson/Arbitron. Something like 99.9% of TV viewers are represented by that .1% who are selected by the market research firms. So unless you have a portable radio meter on you and a set-top box from Neilson, your plan doesn't really work.
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wrong.
my plan, like i stated in my post was for EVERYONE OTHER THAN MYSELF to voice their opinion with their wallets. if EVERYONE OTHER THAN MYSELF did this, it would certainly include the 1% you mentioned. you see, if no one is listening to the radio or television it ceases to become a viable form of advertisement.
i'm sure the geniuses who control those particular media would be able to figure out public opinion if said public turned their back on them, even if it didn't include the 1% who make up the neilson ratings.
 
cheezyflier said:
wrong.
my plan, like i stated in my post was for EVERYONE OTHER THAN MYSELF to voice their opinion with their wallets. if EVERYONE OTHER THAN MYSELF did this, it would certainly include the 1% you mentioned. you see, if no one is listening to the radio or television it ceases to become a viable form of advertisement.
i'm sure the geniuses who control those particular media would be able to figure out public opinion if said public turned their back on them, even if it didn't include the 1% who make up the neilson ratings.
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I understand what you are saying, but are there seriously no radio/TV programs that you like?
 
djscoo said:
I understand what you are saying, but are there seriously no radio/TV programs that you like?
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None for me pretty much.

I have the radio on in the truck while driving for background noise, but its barely audible, while home the tv never plays and the sterio sits quietly.

The only tv I do watch is usually news and weather.
 
there may be some i could watch. the simpsons, for example.
but there are none that i find good enough to be worth the commercials, the product placement, the subtle and not so subtle subversion of morality and public opinion through children. the general culture brainwash.

as for the radio, working in construction is what turned me off of that. 25 years of hearing the same songs by led zeppelin, pink floyd, the who, and the inane chatter of the dj, as well as the commercials. i like choosing what i feed my head.
 
Ken Stallings said:
No, it was more than merely "decent." It was actually humane, which I think is a rather important human characteristic to possess willingly.
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Ken, that's precisely what I meant, and also precisely what the true definition of 'decent' is.

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Ken Stallings said:
If you think I'm drawing a negative reaction here, then you would be correct.

Ken
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Cheers, Ken. :ernae:
 
boxcar said:
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Absolutely. No TV here either for many years for exactly the same reasons, very little selective radio. Good to know there are others.
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As for radio, very little's good and I refuse to let classic rock stations cheapen what I hold dear. Like he said, they destroy good bands. I can't ever listen to the who again after years of classic rock radio and then the superbowl. I don't want led zep ruined, and they've about done it with pink floyd, who I used to LOVE.

As for TV, I'm sure you know boxcar,

if you go years without it and then watch a popular show, you really think it's DUMB and contrived. There's some show about a spy in Florida I watched the other day at my brother's house, and I absolutely could not believe how bad the acting, writing, screenplay and cinematography was. I felt like someone in marketing was holding a banana out of the TV and taunting me with it..."c'mon, you're all dumb, right? you like explosions and stuff..."
 
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tigisfat said:
...if you go years without it and then watch a popular show, you really think it's DUMB and contrived.
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Boy, howdy! Will drop by a friend's home from time to time & there will be some TV program on & it's difficult to know what is more amazing: the consistent, smart-alecky "wit" of the program's writing staff or my friends' enthrallment over the show.

Powerful stuff, the media is, able to draw money out of participants at will. Hitler & Orwell must both turn in their graves over the power of the media these days... like "fair & balanced", for example. Say it enough & it gets programmed.... or, as I expressed it elsewhere recently:

"We mobilize our vast, global press machinery to spread conservative & corporate interests, presenting believable rhetoric convincing of corporations & politicians fighting for you to impart a sense of caring for the people; you decide."

Not picking on FOX here as much as I am giving an apt example, imo.
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Back more on the OP topic, am also one always trying to see the humanity behind the celebrity train-wrecks that the media make so much money over. Sad stories, most, though ones that indeed should not be getting so very much attention, imo.
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And yes, Chris: I do read books & am very selective with them as well. Long live good books. :)
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Chris H said:
To all those without televisions and radios, do you read books?
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More often than not, but with books I get to choose what I put into my head ... thank you very much.

Oh, and its not like I don't have a tv or a radio ... I selectively choose not to play them every second of every day.
 
Snuffy said:
More often than not, but with books I get to choose what I put into my head ... thank you very much.

Oh, and its not like I don't have a tv or a radio ... I selectively choose not to play them every second of every day.
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Your reply confuses me. I specifically queried "those without televisions and radios".

You confess to owning both and watching or listening occasionally, yet still feel you have some kind of point to make about "what you put into your head".

There seems to be a rather trendy movement at the moment that derides the "idiot box" and holds it in contempt.

You can choose what to watch in the same way you can choose what to read, what to listen to, what to eat, what to do when you get out of bed in the morning. No-one is forcing things into your mind.
 
You obviously have no problem with mindless television programs, or commercials then.

Good for you Chris, go merrily on your way through life.

The predicament to your question though is that everyone here that has confessed to not watching television has not stated that they do not own one .... just that they choose not to watch ...

So your "survey" (query,) would be flawed. :wiggle:
 
Snuffy said:
You obviously have no problem with mindless television programs, or commercials then.
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I think television is only mindless if you make it mindless. I agree that there is a problem with shutting off your brain, sitting in front of a TV and absorbing everything that is told to you. That said, there are other options to just refusing to participate in the whole thing. There is plenty of valuable information available for interpretation through television programming. As Cheezy said, there is also a lot of subliminal, perhaps even unconscious messaging which can be harmful if you let it.
 
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