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BP making me mad now!

K

Ken Stallings

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I just read and heard where government inspectors are complaining that they are being harrassed by BP employees and prevented from installing their underwater measurement equipment. The claim being passed is that BP's legal staff is directing this action to limit the company's liability, which is likely to be based upon the total spill volume.

Worse, local news media in the Gulf area are now reporting damning information about the clean up crews that BP has hired. Reports are that the crews don't appear too terribly motivated to perform the labor and are taking a lot of time off. Judging by the looks of the people, they appear very young and untrained.

To my way to seeing it, it seems BP has decided to hire summer workers at the lowest possible rates.

In fact, by contrast, volunteers coordinated by local governments appear to be much harder working. In addition, local hotel owners are employing crews to perform cleanup who are doing a better job. Right now the local hotel owners who stand to lose the most are furious and openly accusing BP of slow rolling the efforts. They are going on record as saying necessary clean up equipment is being promised in vain by BP but never delivered.

Frankly, it seems all BP can do is spend $15 million on PR ads!

If this turns out true, BP executives are going down and going down very very hard! And in my personal view, if these complaints by numerous people are validated, then I want the US Justice Department to issue an official request for extradition of BP's CEO and frog march his butt to federal prison to stand trial for criminal negligence!

Ken
 
I couldn,t agree more with you on this one Ken . I truely feel sorry for all the people affected by this on the Gulf Coast . I hope they plug this damn thing and soon ! BP hasn't even scraped the surface or put a dent in their profits IMO .
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Ken Stallings said:
Frankly, it seems all BP can do is spend $15 million on PR ads!

If this turns out true, BP executives are going down and going down very very hard! And in my personal view, if these complaints by numerous people are validated, then I want the US Justice Department to issue an official request for extradition of BP's CEO and frog march his butt to federal prison to stand trial for criminal negligence!
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Gee, if they spend any more it *might* put a scratch in their 80 billion dollar Christmas bonuses! These people are the absolute biggest scum on the planet. Plug the hole with their bodies.

They will get away with everything. We will end up paying for the cleanup. Locals will lose jobs, homes, and lifestyles, and the rich @&*#(^#%@ will just keep living the way they are.



Welcome to America! Land of the free and home of the brave... if you have money. :salute:
 
O'Bama's latest makes the most sense: When BP profits to the shareholders are released, they will go instead to the people adversely effected by their lack of professionalism. BP's Chairman admitted that the people doing the original work were not BP employees. Did someone from BP bother to check the credentials/equipment/training/work experience of the companies involved? What do you think? The head honcho will I'm sure admit his underlings are responsible. He was too busy playing golf or something, as were his VPs. 7 figure morons, with no social conscience or responsibilities. Another example of the good ole boy board director scam that is American business culture. Workers get crumbs, scum bags on top make it all.
 


Hey guys~ let's leave politics out of this one. We can certainly have a "healthy" conversation about BP, but let's keep it Newshawks-friendly :)

Thank you so much!
 
Ken Stallings said:
If this turns out true, BP executives are going down and going down very very hard! And in my personal view, if these complaints by numerous people are validated, then I want the US Justice Department to issue an official request for extradition of BP's CEO and frog march his butt to federal prison to stand trial for criminal negligence!

Ken
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Nice thought there Ken and I agree but it will never happen. Except for a few exceptions, people with money just don't go to jail. The BP CEO will die a fat happy cat with all his money in the bank.
 
sadly as soon as the US threatened legal action
everyone is looking over there shoulder
and confirming with there lawyers first
bad move for all
enough for my politics
im as mad as anyone
but a bad move
need to get it fixed first
and now i crossed the line
H
 
Trans_23 said:
Nice thought there Ken and I agree but it will never happen. Except for a few exceptions, people with money just don't go to jail. The BP CEO will die a fat happy cat with all his money in the bank.
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This situation is equal to a terrorist attack on our homeland, causing great damage to the way of life and way of making a living for so many people, not to mention the damage to the envrionment and wild life. But these people responsible for the disaster will go on living the life of privilege and luxury while the US justice dept. just sits around with their thumbs up their A**es. And the American tax payer foots the bill for the clean up. Tell me in a year from now that I am wrong.
 
Ripcord13 said:
This situation is equal to a terrorist attack on our homeland, causing great damage to the way of life and way of making a living for so many people, not to mention the damage to the envrionment and wild life. But these people responsible for the disaster will go on living the life of privilege and luxury while the US justice dept. just sits around with their thumbs up their A**es. And the American tax payer foots the bill for the clean up. Tell me in a year from now that I am wrong.
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I think this is where that must change, and can change. You are right, if this were a deliberate terror attack then, well, this is the stuff wars are made of.

However, this was on paper an accident and I was very willing to assume that and provide the benefit of the doubt to other claims.

But, as the facts have emerged it seems clear there was systemic negligence that contributed mightily to this accident. Beyond just the gargantuan economic impact of this mishap there must also be added the eight lives lost. You cannot put a price tag on that. Then to have this CEO say to Congress, "I wish I had my life back!" Well, I cannot imagine a more tone deaf and insensitive remark to make. Even uttered in private it reveals a fundamental lack of morality.

But, to utter it immediately after and on public record while under oath, that takes it a whole different level of insensitivity. Now it appears they are nickle and dimeing themselves on the vital cleanup operations by hiring amateurs to perform the work. Even Exxon hired professional crews to perform clean up. What I'm seeing hired by BP aren't looking like professionals, but like a collection of college kids and high school kids looking for temporary summer employment!

That type of negligence in my eyes is a whole new level of crass abdication of basic responsibility. I can accept accidents. What I cannot condone is arrogance both in negligence reinforced with unaccountability.

So, for those reasons, perhaps this needs to become the new poster for corporate criminal negligence. There are a lot of sage arguments that can be made to avoid doing this, but in this case, enough is enough and it is time for society to remind these people that with great rewards come great responsibilities.

Ken
 
My only guesses on the BP thing is who blew the well, the British SBS(Special Boat Service, their SEALS) or our own SEALS. The men who blew this well I have no doubt are where the 11 who died in the explosions, the witnesses: Somewhere with .22s in the back of their heads.

Having sold out to the Saudi Royal Family, the Democrats don't want offshore drilling, although it's been done in the North Sea for decades with few disasters, not enough to stop the practice. Why else would Obama sign the bill not long ago that authorized more offshore drilling if he didn't know this one would soon be popping and people like Ken would be outraged and we would have no offshore drilling because of public opinion?

Is this political? No, this is court and trial procedure. The circumstantial evidence is too strong this well was sabotaged. We even got a cover story, a false "conspiracy" theory that the North Koreans blew it to impeach any further discussions of this being an intentional act of sabotage. Only one little itty bitty tiny thing puts the N. Korean fairy tale in the drink: That's N. Korean subs paying toll at the Panama Canal without being noticed.

"Ah, honorable pleasure cruise, HAI!"

Bones
 
tonybones2112 said:
My only guesses on the BP thing is who blew the well, the British SBS(Special Boat Service, their SEALS) or our own SEALS. The men who blew this well I have no doubt are where the 11 who died in the explosions, the witnesses: Somewhere with .22s in the back of their heads.

Having sold out to the Saudi Royal Family, the Democrats don't want offshore drilling, although it's been done in the North Sea for decades with few disasters, not enough to stop the practice. Why else would Obama sign the bill not long ago that authorized more offshore drilling if he didn't know this one would soon be popping and people like Ken would be outraged and we would have no offshore drilling because of public opinion?

Is this political? No, this is court and trial procedure. The circumstantial evidence is too strong this well was sabotaged. We even got a cover story, a false "conspiracy" theory that the North Koreans blew it to impeach any further discussions of this being an intentional act of sabotage. Only one little itty bitty tiny thing puts the N. Korean fairy tale in the drink: That's N. Korean subs paying toll at the Panama Canal without being noticed.

"Ah, honorable pleasure cruise, HAI!"

Bones
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I'm not sure if you are serious, trying to practice your creative writing skills, or trying to get the thread locked. :confused:
 
Cratermaker said:
I'm not sure if you are serious, trying to practice your creative writing skills, or trying to get the thread locked. :confused:
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LOL
actually i was sent here to do just that
i am a bp mole
ok back to facts
i do believe BP should pay all the way
but please do not let politics get in the way
im not that far away and was thinking of going down there and helping
to see for myself
its a tragedy
H
 
Skittles said:
Is there a reputable source for all this?
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Well, there is nothing more reputable than video showing the actual cleanup crews hired by BP, and noting their ages and their cleanup methods. I have seen these videos from numerous sources and it was pretty clear.

Now we have the governers of Alabama and Louisiana both going on record slamming BP for failure to provide barrier equipment. Alabama was so desperate and mistrustful of BP, that they are paying thousands of dollars a day to rent barges and lining them up to provide an oil and wave barrier to protect Mobile bay. It has worked really well and BP refused to help! So, based on what Mobile, AL did, Bobby Jindal is doing it immediately to protect the Louisiana delta region. Essentially the gulf states are telling BP to "stick it" and based upon mistrust they are going it alone!

Right now, the trick isn't finding someone angry at BP for their lack of actions. Rather, it seems virtually impossible to find any credible source saying, "Yeah, BP is stepping up!"

Ken
 
I only hope the whole unfortunate business acts as a brake on their explorations in Alaska. And now they have found oil off the Falkland Islands. A touch too close to wilderness Antarctica for my liking.
 
Naismith said:
I only hope the whole unfortunate business acts as a brake on their explorations in Alaska. And now they have found oil off the Falkland Islands. A touch too close to wilderness Antarctica for my liking.
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You see, that's another reason I'm so angry at BP. There are many companies doing this stuff for decades safely and properly. I don't think it would be fair to ruin them because of BP, and why the other oil companies should be out there expressing their outrage over BP's ineptness.

Exxon did a better job handling their Valdez disaster, and have since stood up to convert all their tankers to the double hull design.

Ken
 
Cratermaker said:
I'm not sure if you are serious, trying to practice your creative writing skills, or trying to get the thread locked. :confused:
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I pay very little attention to this part of the SOH forums for that reason, that everyone's feelings and views of reality are tissue thin and because there is no such thing as "freedom of speech". No, I'm serious as a heart attack.

My "creative writing skills" only insure I'm able to communicate my thoughts accurately and need no practice. if everyone's nerves are too shattered to have an open discussion, if we are too naive' to consider any alternatives other than four legs good, BP bad, four legs good, BP bad, maybe the thread needs closing. All I've seen is a lot of BP bashing, and no comments on a solution; the organic/biological emulsifiers that COULD have stopped much of this damage that was used in Texas numerous times but for some reason has slipped Mein Fuhrer's memory while he builds political capital on a disaster.

Four legs good, BP bad, four legs good, BP bad. Do you all feel better?

Boxer The Horse
 
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