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Earthsimulations Treescapes, Autogen for Horizon UK photoscenery released

IanHenry

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Earthsimulations Treescapes, Autogen for Horizon UK photoscenery released

Hi,
I’ve just found that Earthsimulations has released its Treescapes packages, which add trees to the Horizon Photo scenery for the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:smarttags" /><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">U.K.</st1:country-region></st1:place>, something that has been sadly missing.
http://www.earthsimulations.com/Store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1
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Ian.
 
That's good news. I was about to uninstall the photoreal scenery but this will certainly make it well worth it. I fly mostly at low level so with those trees added it will finally get that bit of realism that I missed!:wiggle:
 
Not sure I can afford £45 on top of the £70ish I paid for the photo scenery, especially when I don't know how it'll affect performance. Will have to pass, for now...
 
Just trees?


(They also look like the standard autogen ones, so no worries about performance. Your slider settings are still regulating the amount and density of trees.)
 
That's what I was thinking.... Might as well get PNW instead you get fairly accurate scenery AND trees for 50 bucks!!

Ryan, unfortunately PNW does not cover the U.K. The trees make no noticeable difference to performance on my computer. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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Are there any screenshots of Treescape out there?

Looked on Earthsimulations's site but couldn't find any.

Regards

Mike
 
Are there any screenshots of Treescape out there?

Looked on Earthsimulations's site but couldn't find any.

Regards

Mike

http://earthsimulations.com/volume1_south-2.html

must admit, not that impressed with the looks of it.

Ordnance Survey data providing Exceptional accuracy!

thats a lot of ... errm .... marketing hype .... as well, the only way to place mass autogen is to open the texture wanted in the Annotator and you just draw your stuff on top .... not even the textures are OS data .. seeing as how there photographs :mixedsmi:
 
I'd of much rather had a package that actually provides some of the landmarks rather than default trees, I would have probably bought this!
 
I'd of much rather had a package that actually provides some of the landmarks rather than default trees, I would have probably bought this!

If you have the pro FSX, there is nothing to stop you using the autogen tool in the SDK to add trees, houses, hotels or whatever. It is not difficult (I always add trees to my scenery) but it is quite time consuming, however, it may be the start of a new 'creative' aspect of FS for you all!
 
I know what you mean mate, but making custom building is a pain in the backside if you don't know exactly how to do it or have no experience of that sort of thing, I'd just love to actually have my home area and maybe some other areas actually with full local landmarks, I know there are a lot of talented designers who have done great freeware aditions to Horizon VFR X, but paying for trees with no actual addon buildings just seems rather strange to me!
 
If you have the pro FSX, there is nothing to stop you using the autogen tool in the SDK to add trees, houses, hotels or whatever. It is not difficult (I always add trees to my scenery) but it is quite time consuming, however, it may be the start of a new 'creative' aspect of FS for you all!

Anyone care making a "FSX developer" recruitment video? :d

It may even portray us as jet-setting, sportscar driving casanovas who finish anything within an afternoon (while in reality we are average joes with a rusty car and...a wife who need serveral months for their work).
It will be okay, as long as it gets us more [LINESTRIKE]cannonfodder[/LINESTRIKE] [LINESTRIKE]newbies[/LINESTRIKE] [LINESTRIKE]dev-interns[/LINESTRIKE] people. :d
 
I'd of much rather had a package that actually provides some of the landmarks rather than default trees, I would have probably bought this!
For my money this is a much better idea than a few Lego buildings plonked onto flat photo terrain. It's country-wide, and it will make flying low in rural areas much more of a realistic experience.
 
And yes, I'd be much more tempted if it also included semi-accurate buildings, with proper UK textures. Brick houses and the like. Landmarks are an absolute must.
 
I don't regard high altitude photosceneries as really usable for low level flight since the photos made through 20,000 ft of air moisture distort the colours too much. Adding autogen to it just doesn't work. Those screenshots simply look wrong to me colourwise... in this case I'd prefer the synthetic UTX/GEX combo.
But that's just me.
 
Hi Folks

Please take these comments with their light-hearted intent. :icon_lol:

Just trees?
Maybe thats why its named Treescapes. :icon_lol:

Accurate tree coverage alone on this scale, is a major achievement in itself.

(They also look like the standard autogen ones,
The trees are optimized uk specific autogen models, (i.e. not default).

must admit, not that impressed with the looks of it.
It'll certainly substantially enhance the bald photo-scenery.

Think of it as a broadly-scoped area canvas for further commmunity enhancement.
In the same way as Horizon & Justflights photo-scenery is a base to draw airports on.

thats a lot of ... errm .... marketing hype .... as well,
the only way to place mass autogen is to open the texture wanted in the Annotator and you just draw your stuff on top ....
not even the textures are OS data .. seeing as how there photographs
Any map is always a compromise between detail and scale.

Photoscenery at 1m/px detail,
is always going to be of higher detail,
than any commercially viable map.

Matching tree coverage to the unique photo-tiles,
is a lot harder to do
than for the relatively few tiles used on any landclass based scenery.

IIRC, each tile is 1km x 1km,
so if using Annotator,
how long do you think it would take you manually
to inspect, then accurately tree-cover, over 151,174 km2 ? :icon_lol:

Ok, granted the area isn't 100% covered by trees, (if it were, it would be a much easier task).

Plus do so, scaling/positioning coverage appropriately, for the various autogen slider levels, (if required).

AIUI,
the Treescapes UK coverage was programmatically generated,
using an in-house tool to read OS source data,
to then map that OS tree coverage data onto the unique photo-scenery tiles.

Hence why it supposedly covers plotted areas, (not unique isolated trees).

There possibly are other more accurate tree coverage source datasets, (e.g. NERC subsets),
which may not be available for viable commercial distibution.

I'd of much rather had a package that actually provides some of the landmarks rather than default trees, I would have probably bought this!
Those are different matters.

The Treescapes packages are Autogen,
whereas you're talking about landmarks, i.e. Scenery Objects.

And yes, I'd be much more tempted if it also included semi-accurate buildings, with proper UK textures.
Brick houses and the like.
From comments posted, that may eventually be a possibility,
but would require creation of an extensive matching set of UK specific models and associated textures.

HTH
ATB
Paul
 
So, as autogen they are season-specific and change their colour and foliage to suit?
 
Hi Folks

So, as autogen they are season-specific
and change their colour and foliage to suit?
Yes !

Darren - Treescapes developer said:
Treescapes UK does show seasonal textures at the appropriate time of year in all locations.

However if you are using UK2000 airports there may be trees in close proximity to those airports
that have been placed as part of the UK2000 installation that won't have seasonal changes.
Whether these will be updated by UK2000 we don't know.

Some seasonal comparison screenies.
Some generic screenies.

HTH
ATB
Paul
 
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