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F8F wip shots
- Thread starter bruce448
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ok time for me to step in here.
The old canopy has been corrected, the one you've edited is the old canopy.
The new canopy has been built around photos that have been interlaced onto the new canopy within 3d studio max. No more alterations will be made to the canopy Im afraid end of story, we was working till 0300 hrs gmt this morning on the new alterations.
unfortunately we're not able to work to .5 of a mm, please state a studio that does...
on a personal note all of vstudios team are now restricted from posting on SOH regarding the F8F. We're working from photos on all angles, we've ditched the Grumman drawings and some people are simply not happy.
Regards
The old canopy has been corrected, the one you've edited is the old canopy.
The new canopy has been built around photos that have been interlaced onto the new canopy within 3d studio max. No more alterations will be made to the canopy Im afraid end of story, we was working till 0300 hrs gmt this morning on the new alterations.
unfortunately we're not able to work to .5 of a mm, please state a studio that does...
on a personal note all of vstudios team are now restricted from posting on SOH regarding the F8F. We're working from photos on all angles, we've ditched the Grumman drawings and some people are simply not happy.
Regards
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gajit
Guest
Fairly put.
I for one am have my credit card no waiting to be associated with this product now :salute:
I for one am have my credit card no waiting to be associated with this product now :salute:
Got you point a long time ago, everyone has. That doesn't mean I don't respect it!
I don't blame you! Makes me sad to see that but I understand.
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gajit
Guest
True and that is OK so long as they have a good strong team of beta testers who are not just "wow, super, lovely" yes men who are not honest and diligent in their approach to the task.
Yeah, but by not sharing developmental stage shots an aircraft can be released with glaring errors and omissions. I'm really happy that the shots were posted here and corrections made before the release. I would think a developer would prefer it that way.
I think we as users or potential buyers have a serious responsibility here. I appreciate that developers step out and listen to us, and I think that therefore the evolving issues of a devolpment should be solved in a more professional manner, on both sides.
VS took Helldivers (ond others) suggestions seriously, and I think that is great and it will add to the quality of the product. If they had kept their work to themselves there might have been a flaw in the outcome.
I just think for us "professional users" that this is could be a future platform to influence the work of "professional developers" without being dedicated beta testers. We, on both sides, should keep that in mind.
My 2 ct
Mark
Agreed! Like I've said over and over again, there are ways of dealing with questions; example, send a PM to the developer. Tearing someone's work a part in a public forum is just down right rude to me! JMO!!!!
PS If anyone cares, I'm done kicking this dead horse! Give me a Bearkitty to fly!!
delta_lima
Charter Member 2015
Sad to hear of the banning progress shots here.
I hope my post regarding the exhaust plate didn't break the camel's back - I truly meant only to make an observation. If I offended, please accept my apologies. In truth, I'm sure no one here at SOH has anything but pure intentions - that of helping further the work. That said, internet posts are pretty mono-dimensional, and can often obscure true intent - so I can certainly appreciate if the modelling team got frustrated.
Regardless, best of luck with the model - and from where I'm standing, had it been released as it was at the start of this thread, I would already have been impressed. I guess I'm a "glass half full" type of person. I can only imagine how good the final project will be - all the best, and thanks for giving us this brief window into the beauty of what's coming!.
dl
I hope my post regarding the exhaust plate didn't break the camel's back - I truly meant only to make an observation. If I offended, please accept my apologies. In truth, I'm sure no one here at SOH has anything but pure intentions - that of helping further the work. That said, internet posts are pretty mono-dimensional, and can often obscure true intent - so I can certainly appreciate if the modelling team got frustrated.
Regardless, best of luck with the model - and from where I'm standing, had it been released as it was at the start of this thread, I would already have been impressed. I guess I'm a "glass half full" type of person. I can only imagine how good the final project will be - all the best, and thanks for giving us this brief window into the beauty of what's coming!.
dl
heywooood
Mayor Emeritus of Taco City
Deano - I hope you will consider an alternative.
I can see not wanting your crew to respond directly to criticism of your work in progress screenshots as it can waste valuable time
but please - do not stop posting the screenshots!
I understand that criticism can come in all forms - from well informed and supported points of concern posted with regard to the developers....all the way down to unsupported and ill mannered rants. I further understand that it can be difficult to refrain from replying to some of the latter...
But - if you work in a bubble with no objective viewpoint you might create something that has provable inaccuracies built in, where on the other hand - if you can post your WIPS, and then stand back while the tempest rages - you can ultimately sift through the useful posts and utterly disregard the waste product...and glean some useful information.
Pacific aircraft of WWII - no matter which nation they were built by - seem to have the most visceral fans and self proclaimed aficionados of all the flying machine genres extant
Good luck sir - and my condolences on your campaign to satisfy this group
we mean well - we just know not what a pita we can be sometimes.
I can see not wanting your crew to respond directly to criticism of your work in progress screenshots as it can waste valuable time
but please - do not stop posting the screenshots!
I understand that criticism can come in all forms - from well informed and supported points of concern posted with regard to the developers....all the way down to unsupported and ill mannered rants. I further understand that it can be difficult to refrain from replying to some of the latter...
But - if you work in a bubble with no objective viewpoint you might create something that has provable inaccuracies built in, where on the other hand - if you can post your WIPS, and then stand back while the tempest rages - you can ultimately sift through the useful posts and utterly disregard the waste product...and glean some useful information.
Pacific aircraft of WWII - no matter which nation they were built by - seem to have the most visceral fans and self proclaimed aficionados of all the flying machine genres extant
Good luck sir - and my condolences on your campaign to satisfy this group
we mean well - we just know not what a pita we can be sometimes.
I want to apologize for any problems I caused Vertigo or for any wrong I may have done to anyone at SOH, I am heartily sorry.
In my zealous effort to make sure that the aircraft I was involved in is done accurately. There is too much about WWII that is distorted and it's a shame. So I try to correct things I feel strongly about and for that I apologize.
In my zealous effort to make sure that the aircraft I was involved in is done accurately. There is too much about WWII that is distorted and it's a shame. So I try to correct things I feel strongly about and for that I apologize.
