If you wanted a Bf109g-10 for MAW...

[ndicki]

You've got one. But it's not German.

The G-10 and G-14 were not used by the Luftwaffe in Italy, for the very simple reason that by this stage, all Luftwaffe fighter units had been withdrawn from Northern Italy late in 1944, entrusting the defence of the area to the ANR. The Italian ANR was high on the list for new aircraft and was kept as up-to-date as possible, receiving the G-14, then the G-10. There were even plans to equip the Italians with Me262 jet fighters, but these came to naught.

This aircraft belongs to the 1st Gruppo Caccia, "Assi di Bastoni" in early 1945. It is an Erla-built G-10 with the standard MG151/20 main armament, but with the improved DB605 DCM engine, using C3 (100 Octane) fuel and MW50 boost.

 

[HouseHobbit]

Beautiful!!
I'll have a use for this..
More MAW Missions coming..

Busy flying my Lovely Hobbit special right now..

Thanks Ndicki, you have managed to supply everyone with Great birds, and I shall admit, I enjoy them VERY Much..
BRAVO..
:salute: :salute: :salute:

 

[Led Zeppelin]

Perfect to fly the ANR campaign by Cliff Burgess, updated to ETO standard and included in the previous release!

Thanks for this rare and unusual bird.

 

[Autothrottle]

Just one question Nigel

How come you seem to have more Bf-109's than any other aircraft? Is it a personal love you have of this machine or do you just look at power and production rating in the Luftwaffe?

 

[ndicki]

Go and look in my download pages - I think you'll find that there are more Spitfires and Hurricanes than anything else in fact. They were released as skins owing to AvHistory restrictions on their material. There are also whole pages of MS406 and Fairey Battle aircraft. There are a load of "my" Blenheim MkIs, Gladiators and PZL-24s at Reg's, too.

The main thing that keeps me amused about 109s is that there are such a wealth of different types, and such an array of different paint schemes and markings that it is very difficult to get bored. Spitfires, on the other hand, are less interesting to model and paint, in that production was comparatively standardised compared to the 109, and the vast majority of Spitfires bore no individual markings whatsoever. That has been skewed to some extent by the tendency of period photographers and modern profile painters to represent those which do have some visual interest - namely either those flown by aces or notable pilots, or those with distinctive artwork. The average run-of-the-mill Spitfire, or indeed any RAF or Empire aircraft, was completely anonymous and devoid of any distinguishing feature at all.

With German aircraft, the regulation markings were applied or were not applied, this way or that way, in the correct colour or not, and as a rule no two aircraft, even in the same Staffel, were exactly alike.

If you mean that I should look at other aircraft, then do bear in mind that a complete 2048 template takes weeks to draw, and that as a result, I tend to milk the ones I have made to death before moving on to another aircraft.

If people want to download and use the result, so much the better. If they don't, and think they have enough of whatever aircraft I'm doing at the moment, then that's also up to them.

Finally, I don't like FW190s, have already done skins for many of the aircraft which do interest me, don't want to step on John's toes too much, and I generally do not paint USAAF aircraft except in very specific cases. You have to draw the line somewhere, and they do not interest me very much.

 

[MajorMagee]

I totally agree that for the hours you have to put in, it had better be on something that really interests you.

 

[Autothrottle]

Thanks for the information Nigel, I never knew you were such an enthusiast on the 109.

One thing I've noticed about CFS3 is the fact that MS gave us a bunch of historically lopsided aircraft. Against a 109, I would never attempt a dogfight with a P-51 B or D, Maybe a spitfire or a Tempest. The 109 seems like its the best aircraft to fly in the whole sim.

I must admit Nigel, I love your work on the 109. I have only one World War two book on combat aircraft, and its severely lacking in skins for the 109. There are only a few with Adolf Galland, and Probably Werner Molders, thats all. There isnt even enough information available in the text to get me interested fully.

However, reading what you guys do in the forum actually makes it more interesting. You give us such a wealth of skins to choose from its easy to lose which one I actually like. I have your Yellow 6 withtracer mods and its quite a handful, much better than the stock 109 G-6.

Nigel, Also,What do the Luftwaffe codes stand for on your 109's? For example, if you release a 109 and it goes like this: Bf-109G-6/U4, I get the BF and the 109 serial numbers, but what is U4? I've seen it on my me-262 in the sim as well.

Well Nigel I wish you all the best .

P.S. I hate my Fw-190's. How is it they bleed off so much bloody airspeed? Every turn and manouvere leads to a stall. Flight model settings maybe?

 

[ndicki]

The easiest online way into the 109 is perhaps this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Bf_109
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Bf_109_variants

This following site gets more complex - you need to be quite critical, because some of the propositions are a bit shaky. Don't forget that much of the information is simply not available, and you end up having to extrapolate from known sources.

http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/index1024.htm

This is useful when you know what to look for:

http://www.messerschmitt-bf109.de/

And of course, paper-based research, which in the end is the only way to do it. Internet is useful for odd things, but really the level of detail needed is not available online. And that is where most of it comes from.

One word of caution - do not buy the French-published (but available in English) Histoire et Collections profile books - they are horrifyingly inaccurate. For example, all the profiles of G-10s show metal-tailed WNF machines, while in fact some of these aircraft were Erla-built, and had wooden tails. The difference should be visible, and isn't...

 

[ndicki]

For the FW190, look at the wing shape. Anything with stubby wings like that will turn like a house-brick. Rene can explain this better than I, since he understands these things, but suffice to say that if an aircraft has short, wide wings, it'll roll well and fly only in straight lines...

 

[Autothrottle]

Thanks very much Nigel!

As well as your email!

Ive never known that about the 190 until now. Man its hard to get a 'clean' kill in the sim with it. I end up using up nearly all of my ammo just trying to set up an attack.

 

[swpierce]

It seems to me that the simulation itself does favor the dogfight over the "boom and zoom" concept of air warfare. In reality a fast "energy fighter" like the Fw190 or P-47 would find most success via a surprise attack from superior position, blasting the enemy before they had a chance to react. My feeling is that the AI is much more aware of the situation than human pilots would be and it is impossible to catch it by surprise. Every combat becomes a dogfight and the fast turning aircraft are naturally preferred.

 

[ndicki]

It seems to me that the simulation itself does favor the dogfight over the "boom and zoom" concept of air warfare. In reality a fast "energy fighter" like the Fw190 or P-47 would find most success via a surprise attack from superior position, blasting the enemy before they had a chance to react. My feeling is that the AI is much more aware of the situation than human pilots would be and it is impossible to catch it by surprise. Every combat becomes a dogfight and the fast turning aircraft are naturally preferred.

Seems true enough to me. I wonder how things turn out in multiplayer mode without "radar" and suchlike. Of course, even with TrackIR, it'll be difficult to spot an adversary who knows how to exploit the sim, too...