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More Aircraft Carrier - Scenery Questions . .

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expat

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Have not tried this yet in FSX, but this is essentially the concept I am looking for - a fixed location, hard deck CV that is created as a scenery object and can be moved. With luck, I will manage to do it using the library object placement tool in ADE which is just aim and click once it is set up right. Otherwise I can manually edit the xml file.

Now, the question is, is there a way one may convert, e.g. Javier's hi res Nimitz v.2 - which essentially is an aircraft model, not a scenery bgl for purposes of FS - into a libary object and then place it anywhere one wishes?




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[SIZE=-1] FS2004/FSX EZ Nimitz Library Update (with FSX hard deck). This is a scenery object library for use with Abacus EZ Scenery or Flight 1 Instant Scenery object placer software. It will allow you to place any of eight different Nimitz class carriers anywhere you choose with a hard landable deck as well as with a wake if you choose to depict it in motion. Model by Javier Fernandez. Hard deck by Mark Harper. By R. A. Baum.[/SIZE]
 
Hi there, I have also been working on getting the Nimitz to work . Anyway doodling about trying to place the Nimitz , I stumbled acroos away to use the Nimitz in scenery and for the most part works . I used inctant scenery 2 . I put the model and texure in the scenery file useing the program . Everything works, but for some reason I can't hook up to the shuttle to launch. I dosen't move around . Hope this helps .
 
crashaz said:
See here....
Library Creator XML

http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/downloads.php?do=file&id=10

You can take any MDL file and compile into a BGL library object.

Then you can use a tool to place said library object.:wavey:
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Interesting thread.

What about functions that hide in gauges or effects or animations and such? Don't know if these will work after converting the mdl to a static bgl.
In SbuilderX one can place FSX mdls directly, but I have never tested that.

Cheers,
Mark
 
If a Carrier is fixed in position, forget about launching or recovering aircraft. The aircraft depends on the forward speed of the Carrier in order to do both. That's why Carriers are so fast,
 
Then it must be in "FSX world" you can fly with one wing. You need the Carriers speed or you'll be launched in the ocean or snap every wire on the deck.
 
As usual, Helldiver, you are 100% spot on. I completely agree, and in fact, all one needs to do in FSX or FS9 is set the wind the wrong way 'round at say 21 or higher knots and you won't be able to land or takeoff on a carrier without crashing just like in the real world.

Remember though, in FS9 the only carrier you could land on with a hard deck was a fixed one, e.g. like the AS Big E. The moving carriers in FSX is of course far more realistic and I regard Lamont Clark's nifty AICarriers2 program to be one of the most vaulable add ons to FSX and use it all the time. Only reason I want to have some fixed boats as well is so I can do testing more easily and save flights to use later with the plane starting on the deck. I usually once launched will use the moving AI cv's and ALWAYS make sure they are turned into the wind before attempting to "catch a wire."

Regards,

expat
 
I fought like hell to get the developers of FSX to make the carriers move realstically. It was part of flyng off a deck. Now I'm told that a fixed position is OK since it's just "FSX world".
 
Helldiver said:
I fought like hell to get the developers of FSX to make the carriers move realstically. It was part of flyng off a deck. Now I'm told that a fixed position is OK since it's just "FSX world".
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FSX, as real as it gets right?

Mike Mann
 
Hate to burst anyones bubble but all Nimitz and probably the previous fossil fueled carriers can launch aircraft in still air, you don't get as much payload or range but the steam cats are perfectly capable of launching aircraft at their medium weights with no wind across the deck. This was stipulated after experience in WWII where carriers where crippled dead in the water and the air wing could not take off, its a damage limitation exercise, you may loose the boat but you still save and awful lot of your air wing.

Landing is another story but launching, is possible, I've some shots somewhere, will try and dig out if time permits.

Best

Michael
 
Mike, since I got no experence with oil burners, or crooked decks or steam catapults, I only refer to straight deck Essex class carriers. The good kind.
It was quite a wallop when we got launched by hydraulics. What a kick in the behind it must be to be hit with a steam catapult. Make sure you went to the bathroom first and if you suffer from the "Hershey squirts", - forget about it.
Like you say, they may be able to launch them, but recovery on a still carrier presents a problem. All they can do is to pray for a hell of a head wind or head for the nearest land based airport.
 
HD see attached, an Essex, stationary but not straight deck so the cats are steam which gave a much bigger punch. This being CV-19 USS Hancock in 1961 and granted a Spad is no where near a Whale or Crusader to launch at zero across deck wind.

BTW what did the Essex class burn ?, I always thought it was oil, surely it wasnt coal, I know some RN / US battleships burned coal but I think most had been converted to oil by WWII, but I do know what you mean by oil burners, ie Forrestal onwards.

As you say, I seriously doubt a hydraulic cat has the power to static launch an aircraft, there just isnt the expansion you get with steam.

Best

Michael

Helldiver said:
Mike, since I got no experence with oil burners, or crooked decks or steam catapults, I only refer to straight deck Essex class carriers. The good kind.
It was quite a wallop when we got launched by hydraulics. What a kick in the behind it must be to be hit with a steam catapult. Make sure you went to the bathroom first and if you suffer from the "Hershey squirts", - forget about it.
Like you say, they may be able to launch them, but recovery on a still carrier presents a problem. All they can do is to pray for a hell of a head wind or head for the nearest land based airport.
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I have the freeware Nimitz working in free flight now . Its stationary,and everything works,including the cat,arestor wires,elevator, steam,the vehicles move around . I was having problems launching aircraft (would not arm/disarm) . The problem was I has to put the launch arm in the right spot .

I will say its freaking fun to cat and trap .
 
skyblazer3 said:
Congrats! Glad to hear this worked out. How did you do it?
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I pretty much used Instant scenery library maker to put it in the scenery file. Then placed it in the area I wanted . The first time I had no textures,but that was easy to fix . I will post some screens .
 
Heres some screens of the Nimitz .The first couple are of the elevator with the T-45 waiting for it to rise . One of the T-45 on it .If you look close there is a pic of that little truck that passed by while waiting . The 3 of the cockpit are of a trap,note the speed . Last is after I stopped after the cat .

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