Iran's Radar Stealthy flying boats

[centuryseries]

Good point Willy. But in 1942, American intelligence of Japan's military forces was next to nil. In Iran's case, they literally show us their stuff and, you must admit, it is laughable.

I would be more interested by what Iranians don't show us...

How many people would've thought the Taliban/Al Qaeda were inferior against the might of the US before 9/11 - it is proven and is continuing to be proven in Afghanistan that simple yet effective weapons and tactics are more than a match for the might of any modern military with it's advanced hardware which is all seemingly designed for a historical threat from Russia and a battle on the plains of Germany.

What I find interesting is that the Russians tried in Afghanistan from 1979 to 1988 before pulling out - what made the west think we have a better chance of defeating a moving enemy if the Soviets with their Cold War weaponary couldn't?! They hardly ever mention this in the news......

Before thinking those WIG craft are laughable, it's probably a good idea to read up on the kind of hazard the Iranian gun boats caused recently - simple yet effective fast moving weapons.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22537199/

 

[Emil Frand]

"love child of a Jetski and a bumper car,"

http://news.aol.ca/us/article/experts-unimpressed-with-irans-new-flying-boats/19654425

 

[Allen]

Matt Gurney, writing at the National Post, calls the new vehicles the "love child of a Jetski and a bumper car," and believes the boats are seemingly so useless that the only explanation is that Iran is planning to use them in suicide attacks on U.S. ships

I've seen this before...and it was not good.

 

[airattackimages]

History has shown that superior numbers dose better than superior technology.

Ancient history perhaps. Given a comparison of relevant military objectives in modern history the opposite has shown true many times.

 

[Bone]

I'm hesitant to consider any nation's military a joke. We considered the Japanese military a joke before Pearl Harbor and that's a piece of history that I'd rather not see repeated.

Have you been to Belize? No hesitation there at all...JOKE. Here's their Air Force:

Cessna 182 Skylane
<SMALL>USA</SMALL>
Utility
182J
1
(may no longer be in service)
-----
<R>Britten-Norman Islander</R>
<SMALL>UK</SMALL>
Transport
Patrol
BN-2A
BN-2B-21
1
2

-----
<R>Slingsby T-67 Firefly</R>
<SMALL>UK</SMALL>
Trainer
T67M-260
1

 

[hubbabubba]

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Before thinking those WIG craft are laughable, it's probably a good idea to read up on the kind of hazard the Iranian gun boats caused recently - simple yet effective fast moving weapons.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22537199/

Frolicking with speedboats in peacetime is one thing, using "stealthy" ground-effect aircraft for suicide attacks is another. Many NATO and Warsaw Pact subs and surface ships scratched each others paint job during the cold war. The speedboats were seen on radar long before they started their "pissing contest" and, in wartime situation, would have been literally blown out of the water before being in visual contact. I would wage a three-dollar bill that their radar signature is way smaller than these latest contraptions.

Granted though that, in peace time, over calm sea, on a non-armed civil ship, they may have a chance to score a hit or two.

I'm much more concerned by a stack of half a dozen mines attached to a cell phone and buried by the side of the road. These don't need publicity.

This is more self-serving internal propaganda than a warning to "hostiles nations".

The second link given by Bjoern is quite revealing;

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I'm no expert, but this is not Farsi.

 

[Tom Clayton]

As stated, as long as the radar doesn't see all the way to ground/water level, they could, in a sense, be "steath" vehicles.

I love the video that includes the word "Soaring" in the title. The clip shows the obstacle-clearing hop that most small WIG's can pull off, but as I understand it, that's a short-lived "flight." Doesn't that type of craft loose nearly all lift when it leaves Ground Effect?

And do they not know how to put a fairing around an engine???

 

[Bushpounder]

I too have my doubts that marine plywood will be able to deflect that bullet storm.



What's next for them?
Iran obtains the classified plans for 'Shriner Jeeps'?

Chief ..... I give those about .25 of a second with a mini-gun!

Dain ..... damn it! .... you owe me a keyboard!!!!! That is HILARIOUS!!!!!

Don

 

[Bjoern]

What I find interesting is that the Russians tried in Afghanistan from 1979 to 1988 before pulling out - what made the west think we have a better chance of defeating a moving enemy if the Soviets with their Cold War weaponary couldn't?! They hardly ever mention this in the news......

The Soviet Army made so many mistakes in Afghanistan I don't know where to start...

The second link given by Bjoern is quite revealing;

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I'm no expert, but this is not Farsi.

Those were F-5s before they underwent surgery, so english instructions on the fuselage aren't that surprising. Also the plane shown in the pics is clearly a demonstrator, so keeping stuff international for potentially interested foreigners isn't the worst move.

 

[hubbabubba]

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Those were F-5s before they underwent surgery, so english instructions on the fuselage aren't that surprising. Also the plane shown in the pics is clearly a demonstrator, so keeping stuff international for potentially interested foreigners isn't the worst move.

You must admit that, coming from a "rogue state" that defies the international community and boots out UN observers, this is a bit funny.

If they want to export, I think they would have an opening with their ground-effect aircraft, providing that they make it a two (or four?) seater. I would like one!

BTW- I'm not belittling Iran's military might, after all; they kept their ground against Irak, but this particular "show" in recent weeks of flimsy gadgets is pathetic.

 

[Bjoern]

You must admit that, coming from a "rogue state" that defies the international community and boots out UN observers, this is a bit funny.

Who knows? *Shrugs*

BTW- I'm not belittling Iran's military might, after all; they kept their ground against Irak, but this particular "show" in recent weeks of flimsy gadgets is pathetic.

It's not about WHAT you show, it's about THAT you show it.
They designed and built these things in their country and that's what they want to show the world.