Good bye to XP

Ah yes, the boob inspector's assistant! Did you guys have to make any calls that day?:ernae:

Dirty, just watched your Maggie video again. Looks good, Maggie looks great!:salute:
 
Wall . . .

. . . as of last weekend I have officially switched to Winders7. The reason is that I was able to buy the operatin sistim and Office 2010 Perfessional for only $50 threw mi son's skewell. I ain't heered nothin but good thins about it and I, like ol Peewee Raminator up thar, was able ta git CFS2 werkin purdy gewd in Vista. I'ma gona let y'all know how it goes.

Bi the way, has anybody seen mi IQ lately? :sheep: Last time I sawr it 'ol Dusty Butt had mu haid wired up ta some kinda wirey typo kentraption and he keeped on a yellin "It's alive, it's alive". Dont no what in the sam smell that was all about.
 
You guys are way ahead of me. :d I was one of the Windows ME hold-outs until this past January when I built my new computer and installed XP Home. I used ME from the time I got my original pooter in 2001 and it worked fine but I needed XP to run newer programs. Took a while to figure out all the XP housekeeping stuff that was different from ME, otherwise it's been an easy transition.
 
Devildog73 said:
Cees, Rami was making an understatement; he said he has a twisted sense of humor. That is only half true. Rami is TWISTED! Just ask Dirtman.

I mean, the guy teaches other people's children in a public school by choice. How twisted is that??????????????
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Ahum....I'm a teacher too.:173go1:

Cees
 
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Sigh...I knew this picture would bite me in the arse someday...
 
XP is a great OS, I only made the jump to X7 64 bit because I built a system with 6 GB of RAM. XP 32 bit only 'sees' 3.75GB of RAM.
 
XP was a very good operating system, as far as Microsoft products go. Looking back to Win98 and WinMe, they were pretty bad. Too bad Linux wasn't fully developed and in general use at that time or it may have taken a healthy share of the PC market.
I build video and photo editing workstations and purposely skipped Vista, it just didn't give you the bang for the resources buck. I use Win7 64 bit for most of the workstations, it really is a benefit for advanced photo and video editing programs. It is extremely stable. I really liked XP Pro, but I have to give the edge to Win7 Pro. Even old programs will run in 32 bit or compatibility mode.
Win 7 systems work best with lots of memory and quad core processors; my Sony VAIO works fine with a T4300 2.1GHz dual core and 4G DDR2 RAM, but my i7 860 2.8GHz quad core and 8G DDR3 workstation really take advantage of all Win7 has to offer.
I haven't tried CFS2 on the Win7 rig yet, it's on the computer, I just haven't had time to check it out yet.
 
On a Windows 7 rig my advice is stay away from ATI/AMD cards for CFS2. They will not allow you to turn off vSync, while nVidia cards will.
 
I must confess that I was very down on Vista when I first used it, but once you get your permissions right, it's a perfectly good OS. I still prefer XP, but Vista did the job for me as well.

PomBee.:ernae:
 
Wulf190,
I think you're oversimplifying the Vsync issue here. If the issue was that serious, we would have seen far more posts on a lot of forums from users who were unhappy with the way that CFS2 runs on their Windows 7 PC. The truth is that there are many variables which determine whether any particular user is going to see a problem as a result of the Vsync issue. In fact, there are parallels between this situation and the one which results in the plethora of tweaks for FSX, none of which works for ALL users. In short, everything particular that makes the user's PC as individual as the user will contribute to whether that user sees a problem at all.

Yes, there is an issue because of the way that Windows 7 allows interaction with the hardware on which it's running. Yes, the problem is compounded because AMD would rather get into a political argument with M$ instead of just fixing the issue as Nvidia did.

None of that means that a user cannot run CFS2 on a Windows 7 PC, even if they have an AMD card. None of that necessarily means that the user will even see a problem if they do. You got bitten and had to buy a second card to resolve your problem. I was fortunate enough to discover the issue before I bought my card, but have chosen to stick with an AMD card and invest in a copy of XP as well as Windows 7 in case the issue arises when I 've installed CFS2. I chose that card because I want it for FSX, and I'm keeping Windows 7 for its memory management for the same reason.

Having said that, I'm no lover of Windows 7, and unless an application needs that o/s specifically or all the memory I can give it, it will be XP that I'll use instead. But when it comes to advising other users about CFS2 and Windows 7, I prefer to simply tell them that they MAY see a problem if they use them together with an AMD card,
Ro
 
On a Windows 7 rig my advice is stay away from ATI/AMD cards for CFS2. They will not allow you to turn off vSync, while nVidia cards will.
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I had a long run with ATI video cards, after installing a few Nvidia cards in other computers, I decided to give them a shot in my own rig. So far I've had no problems with EVGA video cards and their customer service is great.
Because of the constant need to buy a new video card every time a new game came out, I kind of gave up on PC gaming, but the XBox doesn't have a decent flight sim or air combat game.
 
Both my wife and I used Vista since the day it came out. The only problem we had was we tried to use it on machines that couldn't support the OS. Once we upgraded out machines and put Vista on the new boxes, WE never experienced anything bad with the OS.

We never had a BSD or any type of crash.

I believe most of the complaints come from people who try to put it on an older machine, and well yes, just because your box can run XP, it doesn't mean it will run Vista, but we just seen it as an excuse to build us better systems.

The wife and I build our own PCs.

As I said we didn't have any trouble with Vista (except a few older programs not being compatible), so that when Windows 7 rolled off the factory floor we put it on our systems.
 
rohan said:
Wulf190,
I think you're oversimplifying the Vsync issue here. If the issue was that serious, we would have seen far more posts on a lot of forums from users who were unhappy with the way that CFS2 runs on their Windows 7 PC. The truth is that there are many variables which determine whether any particular user is going to see a problem as a result of the Vsync issue. In fact, there are parallels between this situation and the one which results in the plethora of tweaks for FSX, none of which works for ALL users. In short, everything particular that makes the user's PC as individual as the user will contribute to whether that user sees a problem at all.

Yes, there is an issue because of the way that Windows 7 allows interaction with the hardware on which it's running. Yes, the problem is compounded because AMD would rather get into a political argument with M$ instead of just fixing the issue as Nvidia did.

None of that means that a user cannot run CFS2 on a Windows 7 PC, even if they have an AMD card. None of that necessarily means that the user will even see a problem if they do. You got bitten and had to buy a second card to resolve your problem. I was fortunate enough to discover the issue before I bought my card, but have chosen to stick with an AMD card and invest in a copy of XP as well as Windows 7 in case the issue arises when I 've installed CFS2. I chose that card because I want it for FSX, and I'm keeping Windows 7 for its memory management for the same reason.

Having said that, I'm no lover of Windows 7, and unless an application needs that o/s specifically or all the memory I can give it, it will be XP that I'll use instead. But when it comes to advising other users about CFS2 and Windows 7, I prefer to simply tell them that they MAY see a problem if they use them together with an AMD card,
Ro
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Well I used ATI cards up till about two years ago, and in my opinion AMD murdered ATI's good reputation for vid cards.
 
Had vista home premium on this laptop for a year, never any issues, I got win7 for free as an upgrade from dell last year and the only reason I changed was I got bored one day, broke rule #1 with computers, if it aint broke dont fix it but went ahead and did it anyway. no difference to me or how my machine "appears" to run as far as I can tell.
 
Emil Frand said:
Had vista home premium on this laptop for a year, never any issues, I got win7 for free as an upgrade from dell last year and the only reason I changed was I got bored one day, broke rule #1 with computers, if it aint broke dont fix it but went ahead and did it anyway. no difference to me or how my machine "appears" to run as far as I can tell.
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I was tdoing the talking to Dell tech support last week for a friend. They have Vista and the tech guy, already knowing what their hardware was, asked if they had thought about upgrading from Vista to Win7. A couple days later another tech said that they couldn't upgrade because their PC was built specifically for Vista. I'm sure he had "this call may be recorded" in the back of his mind but he sure was pushing the upsell.
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