Mr. Bone I'm sure your confidence will comfort those dead peoples familys..tell me did you cover the hearings on these incidents?? Or does time heal all grief? or is this a good defense on your part ,for you have a job...I wonder whats your pay rate compared to line pilots??/Are the flying times of most with you adequate??/How much time in the aircraft they fly??? Are knowledge of the systems ingrained in their brain? are there doctored Weight and Balance things going on?Are the Maintenance crews first rate? or like most are cast offs from major airlines!!...It seems Pilot error were main causes!The results of those investigations were from more qualified people than you or I.....I suggest ,and with due respect ,do not read newspapers,or those who benefit from these conditions , lobbyists,and those with vested interest in low funded operations!! and the good Ole boy club at the FAA..Of which the findings showed!!Hey I do not make this up?You can disagree,but you cannot change facts!!..But get the findings Its in the congressional records!!..
I/m close to 80 now,seen a lot of stuff going on..My friend. As Pres. Reagen said Trust But Verify. Be always vigilant ,yet with the open mind!!!.....Good Luck to you,I'm sure your an excellent pilot,But please ,lets not bury facts and incidents along with the dead!!...So Long!! :salute:
Back to the prime directive..Simming!!
Anyone complete an Amelia Earheart Round the World flight..real time?????..Man its a long trip!!...gotta get my EB6 out...
I'm sure at the ripe old age of 80 you have seen some mileage, but your words clearly indicate you don't really know whats going on in todays world of 121 air carrier aviation...and they also indicate you probably weren't involved in yesteryears world of aviation, either. Plane crashes are virtually non-existant today, as compared to yesteryears. Someone of your age should know that. Todays regional pilots have a much better safety record than professional pilots of your age group. All the rules and regs, policies and procedures, do's and don'ts, come from the screw ups of yesteryear. There's a saying about regs, that they are all written in blood....that would be blood from the old timers.
Sarcastically saying that my confidence comforts the families of the dead is absurd. That's you twisting meaning. Planes crash because of an error chain. If you take one link out of the chain of events, then the crash most likely wouldn't have happened. That's NTSB 101. I've been through the ALPA Basic Safety Course...ie the crash investigation course conducted by the Airline Pilots Association. Who's burying facts? What even makes you say that? Delta and Northwest have both crashed planes on take off because they "forgot" to set the flaps...killing over 140 people. The worst aviation disaster to date was when two B747's collided on the runway in Tenerife, Canary Islands. These are facts you don't seem to consider while calling all regional pilots incompetent. Mainline pilots have killed far more people than regional pilots. Ten years ago a United B747 took off from San Francisco and lost an engine. The pilots screwed up the engine out procedure and came within 100 feet of hitting a hill of about 100 houses. That's well documented.
You cited the Buffalo crash as proof all regionals are dangerous and will kill you. That crash was a shame. The pilot mishandled a stall recovery while on an ILS approach in instrument conditions. Well, all things being equal, shouldn't we condemn the American Airlines pilots as incompetents, too? American crashed an A-310 shortly after take-off from JFK in VFR conditions. The plane entered wake turbulence and the pilot broke the tail off with excessive rudder inputs...ie he mishandled the recovery in CLEAR conditions. The NTSB said the accident was a direct result of overly aggresive rudder input by the pilot. The FAA ripped through Americans training procedures, and found more problems. You didn't say anything about this, but yet said something about me burying facts. The score here? Colgan 50 dead, American 180 dead. It's all terrible, but my math says the American one is worse. But hey, if that's not enough for you, what about when the American MD-80 chopped the top 5 feet off of a 200 foot section of trees at the approach end of the Bradley-Locks airport? They set their altimeters wrong on an ILS approach. Oddly enough, being so close to the ground is what ulimately saved them. If not that one, how about the American MD-80 that crashed in Little Rock when the pilots forgot to arm the ground spoilers. I forgot how many were killed in that one, but the Captain died, and he was also the Chicago base Chief Pilot! But forget that, I'm giving you too many choices, lets just focus on Buffalo and the regional airline incompetence. Keep it simple, right?
Do you really think professional pilots don't get info on these events? That you are Mr. Research, and the people who actually Know how to fly just fly around ignorant and uninformed? I could have a PhD from all the data that is mandated reading, and a sore ass from regular classroom time....and I'm no different than the rest of my fellow pro pilots, because they are inundated with the same Tech Bulletins and Briefings right along with me. Being a Captain, I get the fire hose and job check every six months.....just like all of the other Captains. Ongoing education goes on weekly in this job. We've practically got sniff detectors around here looking for those who pass gas the wrong way.
Doctored weight and balances, cast offs from major airlines....you've made some stretched out extrapolations, and as I said in a previous response to you, you're indicting all of us. There are former Colonels and Generals flying RJ's, did you know that? Albeit, we only have three Generals at my airline, but we have a quite a number of Colonels, and a load of Lt Colonels and on down....not exactly cast-offs. Kelly Flinn even flew here for about 7 years, remember her, the B-52 chick? OK, well, maybe she was a cast-off, but she's at FEDEX now hauling boxes of Depends around.
TO THE REST OF THE MEMBERS AT SOH: I apologize to you for having to read my pissing post, but I've had it with this type of aviation expert.
