This is just too cool, "Gimme Shelter" deconstructed.

This is very cool. Try starting two or three simultaneously. Start what you don't want to hear and it gives you a whole new perspective
 
Thanks for the link Cazzie. As a former recording studio engineer (and a huge Stones fan) I really appreciated that deconstruction. :applause:
 
Thanks Cazzie, that's a great link. Keef was never the world's most technically proficient guitarist, but few come close for feel.
 
Eoraptor1 said:
Cazzie,

Just curious. Have you read Keith Richards' new autobiography?

JAMES
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Oh yeah, laying on my bed table right now, still reading it, just got it Sunday in Greensboro, we do not have any good book stores in Danville. He writes very well for a zombie too. :icon_lol:
 
That is neat and listening to vocals alone is kind of weird. It's amazing how music is put together for an album, everything is adjusted and timed perfectly.
 
demorier said:
Interesting piece....hey Tako, if a tech person was mixing this which track would they start with ??
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Traditionally the first tracks to go down would be drums and bass guitar, with another track (or tracks) recording a guide of rhythm and a simple lead and a guide vocal so every knows where they are in the song.

The guide tracks are then slowly replaced by the proper rhythm, lead and vocals tracks.

Once all the tracks are down you then have to 'mix' or balance the tracks and this is usually done in the same order.

Another method employed (depending on the skill of the players and the 'feel' required for the song) is to record everything in one take and then maybe just add the final vocal track afterwards. The problem with the latter method is that if one of the performers screws up their part for some reason then ALL the parts have to be recorded again (unless you were lucky enough to have the instruments going to seperate tracks).
 
grumpos said:
Thanks Cazzie, that's a great link. Keef was never the world's most technically proficient guitarist, but few come close for feel.
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And few know the history of the guitar much better. Keith is as much a guitar historian as a guitar player. He admits his guitar is raw, that's the way he started by listening to his heroes like Muddy Waters and Chuck Berry. The Stones would have good rhythm, but without Keef, they'd be limp and listless.

Caz
 
Thanks Tako....sounds like the mixing is quite a technical business...I imagine if the mixer got it all wrong the whole thing would be a real mess.:wavey:
 
Cazzie said:
Oh yeah, laying on my bed table right now, still reading it, just got it Sunday in Greensboro, we do not have any good book stores in Danville. He writes very well for a zombie too. :icon_lol:
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When you're finished I'd like to know what you thought of it. I have some definite opinions (surprise!) but don't want to be a spoiler for anyone else.

JAMES
 
demorier said:
Thanks Tako....sounds like the mixing is quite a technical business...I imagine if the mixer got it all wrong the whole thing would be a real mess.:wavey:
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Oh yeah! At the start of the mixing session you just have a bunch of raw tracks. What you hope to get out at the end is a multi-million seller mega-hit. Of course those are few and far between compared to the number of tracks recorded/mixed per year.

A mixing session can easily last several days per song depending on the quality of the raw material, the amount of work involved and the depth of the pockets for those paying the tab (studio time is not cheap!) Of course you then also have to add in the band/artiste 'ego' and that can make the difference between a great time and an absolute chore. I was involved with several sessions at both ends of the scale! :isadizzy:
 
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