Why I need Soviet missiles...

Which Missles?

Pepe, which missles specifically do you need? The stand-offs and anti-ships? Old Cold War versions or the new stuff?
 
Nole said:
Pepe, which missles specifically do you need? The stand-offs and anti-ships? Old Cold War versions or the new stuff?
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I need the AS-5 Kelp and AS-6 Kingfish and similar vintage cruise missiles. If possible, I would love also a C-201 and C-801 missiles. Some nuclear and termonuclear devices also are welcomed.

Cheers

Pepe
 
peperez said:
I need the AS-5 Kelp and AS-6 Kingfish and similar vintage cruise missiles. If possible, I would love also a C-201 and C-801 missiles. Some nuclear and termonuclear devices also are welcomed.

Cheers

Pepe
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Are you trying to start WW III?:applause: It looks like you are working on some awesome aircraft. I am looking forward to the final results. :ernae:
 
AS-5/6

peperez said:
I need the AS-5 Kelp and AS-6 Kingfish and similar vintage cruise missiles. If possible, I would love also a C-201 and C-801 missiles. Some nuclear and termonuclear devices also are welcomed.

Cheers

Pepe
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Barring any experts stepping forward, I'll do the AS-5 Kelt and AS-6 Kingfish for you. I'm just learning design work with the help of Tango_Romeo. I'll do the model work and get TR to help me with the BGLs. Seems a simple enough starter project for me to tackle. Will you need the pylons too?
 
Nole said:
Barring any experts stepping forward, I'll do the AS-5 Kelt and AS-6 Kingfish for you. I'm just learning design work with the help of Tango_Romeo. I'll do the model work and get TR to help me with the BGLs. Seems a simple enough starter project for me to tackle. Will you need the pylons too?
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Yehp for the Bison and for the Tu-95! Thank you a lot! EMail me to send you the Badger...

Pepe
 
Wonderful. Just what I need as I've made up a "what if" WW3 installation.

PomBee.:salute::salute::salute:
 
Historical note: As of the signing of the START treaty in 1991 the Bison and TU-16 were no longer in the Soviet (now Russian Federation) inventory. The only long range heavy bombers they had were the Tu-95 Bear and the Tu-22 Backfire. Based upon our START inspections, the entire Backfire fleet was judged to be not airworthy, leaving only the Bear as a reliable bomber.
 
Nole said:
I'm just learning design work with the help of Tango_Romeo. I'll do the model work and get TR to help me with the BGLs.
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I could help with any modelling but not sure how to turn into bgl weapons. It would be interesting to see a walk through. Let me know what's needed.

tobob
 
Shadow Wolf 07 said:
Historical note: As of the signing of the START treaty in 1991 the Bison and TU-16 were no longer in the Soviet (now Russian Federation) inventory. The only long range heavy bombers they had were the Tu-95 Bear and the Tu-22 Backfire. Based upon our START inspections, the entire Backfire fleet was judged to be not airworthy, leaving only the Bear as a reliable bomber.
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I am by no means any kind of expert on these matters,I'm a tank guy.What about the Tu-160 and do you have any links that show the Tu-22 has been grounded? I would like to read about that.

Pepe,those are beautiful,I look forward to them.:jump:
 
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tobob said:
I could help with any modelling but not sure how to turn into bgl weapons. It would be interesting to see a walk through. Let me know what's needed.

tobob
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I've just about finished the AS-5 and am looking at the pylon, if Pepe needs it. Why don't you take on the AS-6? TR did a great tute on creating the wep BGL. It's posted at SimV in CFS2/Misc. A great walk-through. TR is helping me out with the modeling and the BGL stuff. See the thread on SimV's CFS2 forum where we're working.
 
safn1949 said:
I am by no means any kind of expert on these matters,I'm a tank guy.What about the Tu-160 and do you have any links that show the Tu-22 has been grounded? I would like to read about that.

Pepe,those are beautiful,I look forward to them.:jump:
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Nothing about the Tu-160. The Soviets/Russians didn't declare it. We (USA) declared the B-52G and H, the B-1 and B-2 only (no flying B-47s or B-58s left). The airworthyness of the Tu-22 was the assesment of our experts who conducted the inspections on site. I wasn't there in person. My team only inspected SLBM, silo, SS-25 road mobile and SS-24 rail mobile ICBM bases. The Russians haven't to my knowledge scrapped the Tu-22 yet.
 
Shadow Wolf 07 said:
Historical note: As of the signing of the START treaty in 1991 the Bison and TU-16 were no longer in the Soviet (now Russian Federation) inventory. The only long range heavy bombers they had were the Tu-95 Bear and the Tu-22 Backfire. Based upon our START inspections, the entire Backfire fleet was judged to be not airworthy, leaving only the Bear as a reliable bomber.
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The Backfire fleet was converted to patrol duties and their refueling equipment were removed after START 1. The Strategic fleet is formed by Tupolev 95M and Tupolev 160. The Tu-160 fleet was enhanced with the adition of ex-Ukrainian planes. Believe it or not, their electronic signature is smaller than B-1B one...

Cheers

Pepe
 
peperez said:
The Backfire fleet was converted to patrol duties and their refueling equipment were removed after START 1. The Strategic fleet is formed by Tupolev 95M and Tupolev 160. The Tu-160 fleet was enhanced with the adition of ex-Ukrainian planes. Believe it or not, their electronic signature is smaller than B-1B one...

Cheers

Pepe
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Yep, you're right... The "Blackjack" was declared in START. My mistake... :redface:
 
That's interesting,as with their tank force most of it was in "storage" translation,junk and they finally did junk thousands of them.As far as I can tell from public sources Russia only has 16 Tu-160's and the Ukrainian Air force has 11 of them.

I remember a friend talking about the 4 Russian Navy ships that sailed to Venezuela and what effect that would have on things and I commented they probably only had 4 ships left that would go that far.Just my opinion based on nothing.

They seem to finally have accepted that that there is only enough money to run so much equipment and that having loads of stuff laying around to boost numbers was a waste of time.
 
safn1949 said:
That's interesting,as with their tank force most of it was in "storage" translation,junk and they finally did junk thousands of them.As far as I can tell from public sources Russia only has 16 Tu-160's and the Ukrainian Air force has 11 of them.

I remember a friend talking about the 4 Russian Navy ships that sailed to Venezuela and what effect that would have on things and I commented they probably only had 4 ships left that would go that far.Just my opinion based on nothing.

They seem to finally have accepted that that there is only enough money to run so much equipment and that having loads of stuff laying around to boost numbers was a waste of time.
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The Ru Federation had severe financial problems in the early 90's and much of their military fell into disrepair. Now, with more oil money coming in, they have more to devote to maintenance and weapons development. Putin and his successor pressed for that, Eltsin didn't. Nunn-Lugar helped by pouring in resources to keep their nuclear and chem-bio scientists from going rogue and help them secure their nuclear materials and help convert production facilities to peaceful products.

I'm pretty sure that the strategic bombers, based in Ukraine were "bought" back by the Russians for debt forgiveness before START went into effect. Nuff said... I don't want to hijack Pepe's thread. :salute:
 
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