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  • Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

    Post 16 Update

    Post 17 Warning

The Important announcement from Ickie..

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warchild

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I'm forwarding this just as I read it.. Enjoy ..:::


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Seeing Red



I am seeing red. lol

changes I made to the download section:
members download speed is set to 56K
members+ download speeds set to 128K
Charter Members set to 5120k (5Megs)
5$ Gets You MB's
 
Yup... Just click on the "Home" button above and you'll see the various download areas listed in the middle of your screen :)..
 
to become a Charter Member is simple just donate.

You get many privileges beyond Member+

adon library below
 
Sim Outhouse went online in 2000, we are from www.combatfs.com which we own and it went online in 1997. Everyone said we would never make it without advertisements, lol
 
Wow, that seems a bit lame to me, charging people for freeware. I mean 56k is a joke. I wonder how freeware authors feel about a sites charging for their work, which is essentially what you're doing. Not only that but you want people to pay for amounts to the most pain in butt library out there. Its too bad what this site has become.
 
no one is stopping you from leaving, people who donate to pay the bandwidth bills should get the fastest downloads not free loaders like yourself.
 
Wow, that seems a bit lame to me, charging people for freeware. I mean 56k is a joke. I wonder how freeware authors feel about a sites charging for their work, which is essentially what you're doing. Not only that but you want people to pay for amounts to the most pain in butt library out there. Its too bad what this site has become.

????????

Nobody here has charged me for anything. SOH sometimes asks their members to donate, for the site, on a volunteer basis.

What site are you talking about?
 
And even if you dont use the library, your donation helps keep this fantastic site operational! :)
 
Honestly, sorry to see SoH has taken this route. I like these forums, and people here, SoH is the only non-Polish place I read everyday and post from time to time. I understand why you've decided what you did, but still I don't think limiting downloads for non-paying members to 56k it's a best idea.

I've donated few bucks this and last year, it's not much, but just can't afford more. I've donated it to support a site I like, not to gain some privileges. Just my point of view, it's your site, do whatever you want.
 
It means that as a basic member you are not excluded from the library. As a Charter member there are benefits, such as faster downloads. Flightsim and Simviation have had a similar regime for a long time now. With $8000 to collect for this year's bandwidth on 2 servers it demanded selling the features of Charter membership. There is no membership fee to get the fastest download speed, just the benefit of donating $5. In the UK that's about the same as a pint of beer.
I simply can't understand the reticence of some members to throw away a few bucks to enable a site like the SOH to stay on air for another year.
 
I do donate (sometimes more then once a year) in various amounts because i want to, not for download speeds! The privileges are a great reward system, but definately not a decision-maker for me!
I like this site, and i love to see it alive and well, and without all those idiotic add's.
If lesser download speed is an issue for anyone, just donate and keep the site alive. Donating makes you sort of a "part owner", no :censored: SOH will grant you higher download speeds and privileges for it!?! If you sponsor a football-club do you also expect to sit in a back row every game/match?

I'm very much in favor of the donation/privileges policy here!
 
When I donated.....

…I didn’t even know there were additional benefits. I just donated to keep a great site going because of some great downloads but also just to read some of the forums to get some good advice from some very talented developers. Even though I don’t upload any of what repaints I do (because they aren’t very good yet) , what I can do I can do because of this site, and that gives me hours and hours of enjoyment. So what are hours of enjoyment worth to me? More than I’ve donated so far…..
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Thank You Guys for all the advice to a rookie…….

Edit : well, what I can do with FS2004 and CFS2....
 
If you are donating for the DL speeds you are prolly making a mistake. I donate because I would go nuts if I could not log into the forums to get timely info and if the bandwidth goes away the forums disappear also. Many of the other sites limit your DL speed, bandwidth is not free despite the fact you may feel entitled to OPM. I don't see the problem.
 
SOH is my daily web browsing. The aircraft my team create are released here before any other site. I also moderate at the FS2002/2004 forum and the Aircraft Design forum. So I try to donate in many ways, moderating, particpating, assisting, creating freeware with my team, creating SOH Team freeware, and monetarily.

I also create tutorials to help new designers; I communicate regularly to help others and to ask for help. It is through this medium that teams are built, products are improved, friendships are made, news is shared, and products made available through uploads and downloads. I cannot donate a lot monetarily but I try to pull my weight to help this great site grow and survive.

There have been many improvements over the last year and membership continues to grow and mature. The few bucks I kick in and the other things I do is for the good of the community, the site is our medium. Where else can you get such a deal.
 
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