UFOs in FBI's Vault....

[beana51]

All very interesting....mans beliefs in something ...the after life...differant worlds or states of mind...like the purpose of the great Pyramids! a Vehicle to the after life!..And most of the great religions.. promise an after life......it can get carried away however..to the extreme...Virgins in heaven...all sitting on a cloud gazing at some super entity for ever ..or as shown not to long ago....Comet Hale– Bopp....Watching that for some time one can get caught up into some serous interpretations ......a hint of the unknown,a sign not to be discounted..the bringer of life or death.......This what some people thought...as they prepared themselves to make that journey... A Saturn-like object" following Hale–Bopp. UFO enthusiasts, such as remote viewing proponent Courtney Brown, soon concluded that there was an alien spacecraft following the comet........A few months later, in March 1997, the Heaven's Gate cult chose the appearance of the comet as a signal for their mass cult suicide. They claimed they were leaving their earthly bodies to travel to the spaceship following the comet...these not stupid people..there believe was strong

The Plausible Impossable, has done many people in since time began....Sorry for my typing...CHEERS Vin!!

 

[Lionheart]

Ok, I finished watching the Dan Ackroyd interview.

Goosebumps!

The story of his show, all the episodes, taken down, cancelled by the Discovery Channel, right after seeing that super tall guy get out of the Ford sedan and staring him down, and then vanishing into thin air.... He was close enough that Dan should have seen the license plate, but couldnt make it out as it was 'fuzzy'... which also caught his attention.


Men in black...


Crazy...

 

[heywooood]

one of the best documentaries on the phenomenon I have ever seen...and it features Dan Ackroyd...never expected that.

Who new he had so much interest and knowledge on the subject.

I thought the encounter with MIB was remarkable also

 

[Lionheart]

So many people that have met MIB say they were just utterly 'really' wierd, like non Human. One person said that it was as if the person was running out of energy after the interview and was barely able to leave, like he was getting sick. Said he just didnt look human.

Who knows..

 

[heywooood]

what did you make of the infra red video shot from the shuttle mission?

for those who have not seen the vid, there is a section of tether from a NASA shuttle EVA spacewalk - about 12' long that floats out of the shuttle bay...with the infra red camera filming, a large saucer shaped vehicle pops out of Earth atmosphere and passes behind the tether.

Using the tether for scale, and knowing their own (shuttle) altitude above the Earth...they estimate the diameter of the disc @ 3 miles.

that's a 3 mile diameter space ship disc saucer thinger...captured on NASA's own equipment and defying all conventional explanation....

 

[SpitXIV]

Re: Same

My Father was having a company picnic in Casper Wyoming, this was in 1961.
I had just finished eating and was throwing my trash away. I walked to the N.W
corner of the eating area, about 8:30 I to the N.west and within 3 minutes the
craft was hovering over me. There were people all around the place, and the area
was all lit up. The craft had red, green, blue, and white lights going aroung the edge
of the craft. Another thing that got my attention was that there were trees all around this place. and not one leaf or branch was moving. The whole sighting lasted to me about
5 minutes total. Then the craft tilted forward and left going S. East as fast as it arrived.
It made no noise coming or going. I didn't tell anyone about it, for the same reason no
one else does. Then when Close Encounters came out. that's when I started telling
people about my sighting. I asked my brother if he remembers seeing anything strange
back then, he didn't. You'd think with that many people there someone would have seen it. Well there's my sighting experience. Once you see one like i did you never Forget it.
Sooo, if you ask me if I believe in UFO's or seen one, the answer is a resounding yes.

 

[Lionheart]

what did you make of the infra red video shot from the shuttle mission?

for those who have not seen the vid, there is a section of tether from a NASA shuttle EVA spacewalk - about 12' long that floats out of the shuttle bay...with the infra red camera filming, a large saucer shaped vehicle pops out of Earth atmosphere and passes behind the tether.

That wasnt 12 feet long, it was many miles long. It was designed to capture/scoop Ions with in the Ionosphere while in orbit to gather huge amounts of electricity, but it became unstable and broke off.

The vehicles (giant mother ships) showed up several orbits later. Yep, huge discs and with dark centers. What was cool was how it came out of a portal opening. Literally like it came through a door, and many more were already there, like they were checking out something that happened.

How many were there?

How do you mass produce that many Mother ships????? Do you know how much materials and things you would need for one that huge? Goodness.. And we complain about the cost of the space shuttle, lol...

 

[Lionheart]

My Father was having a company picnic in Casper Wyoming, this was in 1961.
I had just finished eating and was throwing my trash away. I walked to the N.W
corner of the eating area, about 8:30 I to the N.west and within 3 minutes the
craft was hovering over me. There were people all around the place, and the area
was all lit up. The craft had red, green, blue, and white lights going aroung the edge
of the craft. Another thing that got my attention was that there were trees all around this place. and not one leaf or branch was moving. The whole sighting lasted to me about
5 minutes total. Then the craft tilted forward and left going S. East as fast as it arrived.
It made no noise coming or going. I didn't tell anyone about it, for the same reason no
one else does. Then when Close Encounters came out. that's when I started telling
people about my sighting. I asked my brother if he remembers seeing anything strange
back then, he didn't. You'd think with that many people there someone would have seen it. Well there's my sighting experience. Once you see one like i did you never Forget it.
Sooo, if you ask me if I believe in UFO's or seen one, the answer is a resounding yes.

Very cool story SpitXIV!

Its funny how some people react when they see something that incredible. Some just refuse to believe it anyways, even if its right there in front of you.

Whats really freaky is if you were looking into the eyes of an alien with eyes the size of grapefruit, and you can 'hear' it talk to you in your mind! Now that must be a bit 'disconcerting?'

 

[heywooood]

thanks for the correction on the tether, it has been a while since I watched the documentary...

have you seen the film " The Fourth Kind" yet?

this is about encounters where people are in direct contact with one or more ET

the people only remember vague 'dreams' with 'owls' and a sense of fear or terror related to the idea that these owls are looking at them...only under hypnoses do the people see what the owls really are - and you get the sense that we, or most people, would take something impossible or difficult to grasp - and filter it into something familiar...so they could handle it.

large eyed, short in stature, leathery skinned other worldly looking critters might be recalled as owls for the sake of ones own sanity...

it is an interesting film in that it was taken from the writings and actual recordings of a real psychologist who interviewed and recorded the sessions she had with a handful of folks - not to give away too much of the story

 

[Lionheart]

thanks for the correction on the tether, it has been a while since I watched the documentary...

have you seen the film " The Fourth Kind" yet?

this is about encounters where people are in direct contact with one or more ET

the people only remember vague 'dreams' with 'owls' and a sense of fear or terror related to the idea that these owls are looking at them...only under hypnoses do the people see what the owls really are - and you get the sense that we, or most people, would take something impossible or difficult to grasp - and filter it into something familiar...so they could handle it.

large eyed, short in stature, leathery skinned other worldly looking critters might be recalled as owls for the sake of ones own sanity...

it is an interesting film in that it was taken from the writings and actual recordings of a real psychologist who interviewed and recorded the sessions she had with a handful of folks - not to give away too much of the story

Yep! Scary movie. Makes you think. There are some that think or believe and or heard that the United States made a deal with the grays that they could 'experiment' on citizens in exchange for technology, so long as no one was hurt, but that it has become out of hand, with people actually disappearing, etc.

There is also talk that scientists work with these aliens at a couple of bases, and at once base, 50+ scientists were 'taken' or siezed (we decided we want your scientists now) and the marines (or some delta group) tried to take them back, and there was a LOT of bloodshead, and a break down in the treaty and now, after several years, the treaty is 'slightly' back in place.


That is only hearsay though from a large number of people. No 'evidence'.


Bill

 

[heywooood]

Black Mesa..? lol

anything is possible Bill - that's the intrigue I guess...all the cards are in play

 

[Clarke123]

it is an interesting film in that it was taken from the writings and actual recordings of a real psychologist who interviewed and recorded the sessions she had with a handful of folks - not to give away too much of the story

Sorry but it was all made up for the film. There was no real psychologist or interview recordings and the hypnosis sessions were concocted from other stories.

 

[beana51]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fourth_Kind Tells a lot here!


For me ,there was one story of alien abduction that has stuck with me..they in there testimony were ,in 1961,far too advanced in what they related and reported.to have seen.....The concept in the movies then was totally devoid of any believability!...they were devoid of any knowledge we take for granted today!

Betty and Barney Hill were an American married couple who claimed to have been abducted by extraterrestrials on September 19–20, 1961....again this is a fair account of this....This couple were very believable. I think their story set the pattern of forgers,wannabes, Copycats,and dam liars!.....<label for="rb_iconid_17">

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_and_Barney_Hill_abduction

 

[heywooood]

Sorry but it was all made up for the film. There was no real psychologist or interview recordings and the hypnosis sessions were concocted from other stories.

its all disputed...there are always two sides to a story like this one...

if the video taped interviews were faked it is still a good story...a lot of people in that region at that time disappeared or killed themselves and it is still unsolved

either way it is a decent film

 

[Clarke123]

its all disputed...there are always two sides to a story like this one...

if the video taped interviews were faked it is still a good story...a lot of people in that region at that time disappeared or killed themselves and it is still unsolved

either way it is a decent film

Not really disputable in that everyone in the film was a paid actor. The "real" Dr. Abigail Tyler for example is an actress called Charlotte Milchard. I agree it's a good story and the people behind it used things like the spate of real deaths in Nome, most were attributed to weather conditions, alcohol or both and several people are still unaccounted for. The production team were subject to a lawsuit for the use of faked newspaper headlines and universal pictures admitted they created and spread faked online news stories and obituaries to add to the "realism" and hype the movie. I'm not arguing the alien case I'm just saying the movie is just a movie.

 

[warchild]

I dont know about abductions.. I suppose another race would look at us no differently than we look at animals, or perhaps because some "humans" mated with Seraphim ( what we know read as "giants" in the book of genesis ) which means something like people from the sky, then perhaps they are checking back on their progeny... Who knows.. I do know that in my lifetime, i have seen a lot of inexplicable aerial phenomena, and at least a couple times it was too close for comfort.. The tether in the video was indeed several miles long, but the puoported UFO's gracefully floating about it could be ( and have been ) proven to be nothing more than particles of dust floating around in the vacuum between the two panes of glass on the window. A far more significant moment of that film is when you see what could be a meteorite moving towards earth from the left side of the screen, when it makes an abrupt 90 degree turn towards the camera. Some may argue that that is a meteorite skipping off the atmosphere and taken from an odd angle,but i personally dont believe it is..

 

[Lionheart]

I dont know about abductions.. I suppose another race would look at us no differently than we look at animals, or perhaps because some "humans" mated with Seraphim ( what we know read as "giants" in the book of genesis ) which means something like people from the sky, then perhaps they are checking back on their progeny... Who knows..

Hey Pam,

That was actually the Nephelum, not the Seruaphum. The Seraphum have 3 sets of wings, also large, but fly. The giants in Goshem didnt fly. Well, they couldnt fly on their own. It is written that the Nephelum did come from the sky though.

 

[Lionheart]

Sorry but it was all made up for the film. There was no real psychologist or interview recordings and the hypnosis sessions were concocted from other stories.

Why would they say that it was based on real story? If they make a movie and say its based on a true story, I can see them going outside of the lines a bit, but not totally...


Oddly, many (many) airliner sightings of UFO's come from over Alaska, and oddly, they are all the size of 747's or larger, and flying several times faster then the 747's reporting in the sightings; vehicles flying next to them, then shooting far into the forward distance and stopping, playing chicken with airliners filled with innocent people.

And this is not fake, this is actual reports and recordings from ATC.

 

[Terry]

And this is not fake, this is actual reports and recordings from ATC.

But perhaps ATC personel were sleep walking and talking!

 

[pfflyers]

To those who think UFO's are alien spacecraft I would ask "what do you suppose is the reason they like to play chicken with airliners over Alaska?"

Seems to me there must be some explanation closer to home.