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Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.
WIP: The Fieseler Storch is flying !!!!!
- Thread starter Francois
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Looks great! I'll definitely be picking this one up.
Some people think she's ugly. I think she's pretty darn cool. Ugly is the 747SP.
My comment, meaning facetious.
hae5904
Charter Member
Really lovely depiction of a Storch but why oh why yet again another blue Luftwaffe interior?
Particular noteworthy since Francois's real world photos show the black-green RLM66 in all it's glory, even if a bit dark.:salute:
I mean you wouldn't want a blue olive drab either, would you?
Particular noteworthy since Francois's real world photos show the black-green RLM66 in all it's glory, even if a bit dark.:salute:
I mean you wouldn't want a blue olive drab either, would you?
Francois
FS Veteran
Maybe my screenshots or monitor aren't up to specs, but the interior most certainly is NOT 'blue'.
Not pitch black either, that's true. Maybe we'll make it a bit darker still.
But I checked my (hundreds) of photos once more, and on most the interior does look black-grey, with a blue-ish shine in some places. Granted, some it because of the harsh light of the flash.
There's also a bit of a practical side to it. We found with our Lysander that too dark makes it very hard to SEE and operate in the sim. We had the outside of Lizzie repainted quite a few times, and in the end it still is too dark to show the very nice detail on it.
So in the end, its a trade off between reality, practicality, artistic freedom (!) and technology.... and maybe even taste.
Remember, this is still BETA, so you may well end up with an orange or yellow Storch in the end
Not pitch black either, that's true. Maybe we'll make it a bit darker still.
But I checked my (hundreds) of photos once more, and on most the interior does look black-grey, with a blue-ish shine in some places. Granted, some it because of the harsh light of the flash.
There's also a bit of a practical side to it. We found with our Lysander that too dark makes it very hard to SEE and operate in the sim. We had the outside of Lizzie repainted quite a few times, and in the end it still is too dark to show the very nice detail on it.
So in the end, its a trade off between reality, practicality, artistic freedom (!) and technology.... and maybe even taste.
Remember, this is still BETA, so you may well end up with an orange or yellow Storch in the end
RLM66 is black-grey and was the interior color from 1936 onwards
RLM70 is black-green was used as camouflage in winter 39-40 on the Bf109
That's not correct Bernt as far as RLM66 goes.
First, the descriptive names "black-something" and so forth are post war additions.
RLM66 always was and is a very dark greenish teint and was used on interiors from late41/early42 onwards. Before that you can see RLM66 on panel plates occasionally, and only there.
Before late 41 is was RLM02 for interiors, a medium grey with a greenish teint.
A good leftover example of RLM66 can be seen on the south african Fw190A-6.
It has been repainted in bluish colors post capture but the original RLM66 was retained for instance on the pilot seat and wherever original labels have not been overpainted such as the area where you can read "Staurohr Heizung D2"
http://www.classics-hangar.de/temp_images/Fw_190_054.jpg
http://www.classics-hangar.de/temp_images/Fw_190_123.jpg
EDIT: Anyway, that doesn't take away anything from the lovely Storch except maybe for the most picky Luftwaffe talibans (like me, LOL).
Your monitor is most likely calibrated too dark with too much contrast?
Base color is RGB53/56/51 which is an accurate depiction of RLM66 in computer speech.
Color variations in the panel plate are due to global illumination and color "bleeding" from surrounding geometry.
That is the historical panel. The IFR light panel is indeed "black".
Aynway, the Storch will fit my hangar nicely with either shade.
Francois
FS Veteran
These show almost light grey on my LED monitor. And I see the problem as with all flash photos... the colors become much lighter because of the harsh light. Cannot be helped much... if we'd take the real light, the photos would be too dark for the artists to work with and see the details.
Modeling will remain a matter of continuously compromising I am sure ;-)
Modeling will remain a matter of continuously compromising I am sure ;-)
Francois
FS Veteran
Your monitor is most likely calibrated too dark with too much contrast?
Base color is RGB53/56/51 which is an accurate depiction of RLM66 in computer speech.
Color variations in the panel plate are due to global illumination and color "bleeding" from surrounding geometry.
That is the historical panel. The IFR light panel is indeed "black".
Aynway, the Storch will fit my hangar nicely with either shade.
Last communication I had from Simon (and he cannot get onto the forums because of his shaly internet connection) is that he is sorta 'stuck'.... not knowing what t odo. He says he made the color as close to my pictures as he could and if anyone has a workable 'change' and 'instruction' for him, he'll be happy to alter. Otherwise, we'll leave the colors as they are for now.