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JFK Air Disaster narrowly avoided

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kilo delta

Charter Member 2015
A packed Lufthansa jet narrowly avoided a deadly collision with an EgyptAir flight that had taxied into its path at Kennedy Airport, terrifying air traffic control tapes revealed.

"Cancel takeoff! Cancel takeoff plans!" shouted a rattled air traffic controller as the massive Lufthansa Airbus A340steamrolled toward the EgyptAir Boeing 777 just before 7 p.m. Monday.

"Lufthansa 411 heavy is rejecting takeoff," the pilot acknowledged as the plane screeched to a halt just moments before the potential disaster.

"All traffic is stopped right now," the controller informed all planes, according to recordings posted on LiveATC.net.

The narrowly averted disaster came as the Cairo-bound Egyptian airliner had apparently mistakenly turned the wrong way onto Runway 22R.

The error occurred just as the Munich-bound Lufthansa flight was approaching full lift-off speed of 180 mph less than a mile away.

Stunned pilots who witnessed the near tragedy as they circled the airport let out sighs of relief that no one was killed.

"Those two were coming together," radioed one unidentified pilot.

"That was quite a show. I thought it was going to be a short career," a Virgin America pilot arriving from Los Angeles radioed in moments later.

If the two planes had collided, it could easily have turned into a catastrophic calamity - the Lufthansa plane was carrying 286 passengers and the EgyptAir flight can carry up to 346.

After screeching to a halt, the Lufthansa flight crew requested maintenance crews come and check their overheated brakes.

"Maybe we have hot brakes right now. Maybe we take a minute," a flight crew member radioed to the tower.

The flight took off safely about 40 minutes later. The EgyptAir took off 90 minutes later.

The Federal Aviation Administration said it was investigating the incident.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local..._avoids_crash_with_egyptair_plane_at_jfk.html
 
Whew...

Quite a fat A340 as cover art on the audio clip, eh?
"180mph" if correct exceeds V1...?
Would've been an exciting start to the trip.
 
Wing_Z said:
Quite a fat A340 as cover art on the audio clip, eh?
"180mph" if correct exceeds V1...?
Would've been an exciting start to the trip.
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1. Give them credit for at least using a pic of SOME kind of Airbus and the correct airline...:173go1:

2. I doubt Airbus uses ASI's calibrated in Miles per Hour but reporters have to speak to the largely uneducated audience who'd say "what the #@^& is a knot?" -so doing the conversion back it's about 156Kts

BTW, anyone got a reference for the rejected takeoff stopping distance of a near MTOW A-340?
 
srgalahad said:
...so doing the conversion back it's about 156Kts...
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...which as I said, is about 15 kts over V1. That Lufthansa pilot sounded particularly cool I thought, announcing the RTO when he was practically airborne.
Maybe the press got that wrong, too.

BTW, anyone got a reference for the rejected takeoff stopping distance of a near MTOW A-340?
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My CLS A340-600 pilot's handbook for Flight Simulator Use Only says: Depending on model etc 10500 ft runway is required.
Wonder where the Egyptair pilot was looking, if he missed all those illuminated taxi signs...
 
Wing_Z said:
Wonder where the Egyptair pilot was looking, if he missed all those illuminated taxi signs...
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LOL, no kidding! An Egyptian friend of mine absolutely refuses to fly EgyptAir as he says: "They always try to park in the Mediterranean...."
 
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aeronca1 said:
LOL, no kidding! An Egyptian friend of mine absolutely refuses to fly EgyptAir as he says: "They always try to park in the Mediterranean...."
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There's plenty of runway in the Mediterranean. It's amazing that JFK doesn't have
more close calls than they have.
 
Footage from the cabin of the Lufthansa Airbus...skip to 2:50 for the cockpit announcement

[YOUTUBE]u8_yK7Twz8E[/YOUTUBE]
 
All it takes is one little mistake to create a major disaster. I'm glad this one was averted. Good job on stopping the A340 by the Lufthansa crew. :applause:
 
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