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T-38A Is OUT!

Broke down and bought this White Rocket.
Very nice!
Requires a gentle hand and an eagle eye for airspeed while thinking at least 5 miles ahead of the airplane.

However, when I try to replay the last several minutes after landing in order to critique my approach/landing technique only the HUD shows up. No VC or external view. Has this been reported? Is there any way to fix this?

I can do external views during flight but not in the playback function.

Thanks for any ideas.
Roy Marsh
 
Works fine using the FS Recorder software -- all systems and internal/external model are a go.

Do a google search for FS Recorder if you don't have it it already -- you can record your entire flight, play it back, fast forward, rewind, etc. It has a lot of capability. It is also freeware! It runs as an addon inside of FSX.

I record each of my flights. T-38 works great with the software.

Good Luck,

Chris
 
I have yet to purchased the T-38.
try to replay the last several minutes after landing in order to critique my approach/landing technique only the HUD shows up. No VC or external view. Has this been reported? Is there any way to fix this?
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Surely the FSX Acceleration default replay function will be addressed soon.
 
FlameOut said:
I have yet to purchased the T-38.


Surely the FSX Acceleration default replay function will be addressed soon.
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We will take a lot into this, but as we all know when you start coding things outside of FSX's standard structure the playback ability of them is diminished. Granted at the very least the model should show up in replay as there is not THAT much that is coded outside of the game. :icon_lol: I know most of us (most likely all) use FS Recorder. I highly recommend the program. I only downloaded it about a month ago at the same time I bought the EZ Dock camera from Flight1. Both excellent pieces of software, and I do not know how I have gone this long without them. We will just have to take a look and see what it is doing wth the standard replay software though.
 
muletrain said:
However, when I try to replay the last several minutes after landing in order to critique my approach/landing technique only the HUD shows up. No VC or external view. Has this been reported? Is there any way to fix this?
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There's something broken at your end. Regular FSX "Replay" works just fine here:
 
Hm, just back from holidays so thought I'd better try this baby out... Here's some feedback...HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE...WOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Brilliant!

LPXO
 
Well, I tried to resist, but failed... I bought the T-38 today. Here's some screen shots of my first flight. The landing seemed to be going quite well right up until the very last moment, when it became clear I had slowed down too much. I got the rumbling noise that told me so. That and the fact that I was dropping out of the sky like one of the Road Runner's famous anvils... I didn't bend it though (much) ...

About the rudder. I haven't flown very many real planes in real life, but of the couple that I have, I notice that when you step on the rudder, they don't yaw around sluggishly and drunkenly like 99% of FS planes do, they roll, and with authority. Kind of like this T-38 does! Very cool!

Well done MILVIZ Team!

:ernae:
 
Thanks guys, this is spectacular.
Just to confirm what Jimjam reported previously, the model does seem to have issues with third party Wx apps. Tried flying using real weather via Activesky, 19 knots @ 260 and it rolled like a bastard - not possible to keep it even near on track and basically impossible to land. Then reloaded the flight with default FSX Rwx. That showed 16 knots at 260, a/c was fairly stable, no significant roll. The issue may be with the weather app rather than the aircraft, but then it doesnt occur with other aircraft.
One other tiny bug I noticed was the device below the ball (sorry, dunno what its called - the sliding thingy) slides out of the gauge and clear across the VC at times. Very minor, I know.

Lovin this aircraft... now if only I can get it down without nearly breaking the undercarriage!

LPXO
 
I can see from Pauls over the threshold screenie that he is used to USN aircraft, surprised this one is even flying at that attitude! She's a flat flier, has something to do with the low critical AOA of the grand Piano (sized and shaped) wings. Think streamlined brick.....

After flying this I understand my airforce compatriots a bit more.

T
 
fliger747 said:
I can see from Pauls over the threshold screenie that he is used to USN aircraft, surprised this one is even flying at that attitude! She's a flat flier, has something to do with the low critical AOA of the grand Piano (sized and shaped) wings. Think streamlined brick.....

After flying this I understand my airforce compatriots a bit more.

T
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Now that I think about it, that's exactly what I was doing! I was trying to land it navy style, without flaring! I think it would have worked out ok if I had kept the speed up. Oh, and in that last shot, to say that it was "flying" at that attitude would be too kind. I think it just didn't have far to fall at that point... :icon_lol:
 
Paul, your aircraft attitude is way to high in your last (just before touchdown) in shot. The actual attitude will look more like the first photo.

One thing you can not do with the T-38 is come in hot and high then flare to break your decent rate and speed. You have no wings! :icon_lol: Well, I know there are things that look like wings on the airplane. They were put there as nav light brackets and flap hangers.

The T-38 wings generate lift from the AOA. Unlike a GA airplane with it thick wings designed to naturally provide lift, the T-38 gets its lift from its angle into the air and the thrust to push it through the air. The range of acceptable AOA is narrow.

You will find that the T-38 will be easier to land with half flaps (especially on straight in approaches) rather than full flaps. This is because you will have to make a flatter and slightly faster approach. You have more AOA cushion at the faster speed.

As you come in, start pulling power over the over run so your throttles are fully closed as you cross the threshold. If you are in the green donut, hold that. As you slow the AOA will get higher into the slightly low. Your speed will also bleed and the aircraft will settle onto the runway. In a good landing, you will touchdown with no more than a 300-500 fpm decent rate.

I did a series of shots of an overhead approach for the Quick Start guide. They might help you see the picture, Also, Ken Stallings did some shots of a straight in approach for the POH. There is an excellent write up on landing techniques in the POH. Anyone who wants to really learn to fly the T-38 the way we did it in the USAF should study those two publications.
 
Maybe a bit late, but I want to congratulate the Milviz team for this great aircraft!Both models ( visual & FM) are convincing - looking good and realistic.
BTW, I just discovered today that the AOA vane is animated!!
Now some wishes...
1. The instrument glass is barely visible.Can it be made like in the CH bf-108 ( for example), I mean more reflective ?
2. Flying at night with helmet visors on is odd..( maybe diffrent helmets that can be selected from the load manager?)
3. Some rain/fog/frost effects would be icredible great!!( please, please do it)
4. I know that taxi/ground roll is pretty unrealistic in FSX.In real T-38 steering is engaged only when the stick button is held pressed and a/c in on the gnd, but here there is no wheel steering command in FSX ( as far as I know) and that makes you to have steering even at 130KT ( given that at 135 you rotate). Can you made some way that steering could be engaged/disengaged, or automatically disengaged at some speed?
I said 'wishes', not criticism, so take it as it is,
Thank you
 
mohawk3 said:
BTW, I just discovered today that the AOA vane is animated!!
Now some wishes...
1. The instrument glass is barely visible.Can it be made like in the CH bf-108 ( for example), I mean more reflective ?
2. Flying at night with helmet visors on is odd..( maybe diffrent helmets that can be selected from the load manager?)
3. Some rain/fog/frost effects would be icredible great!!( please, please do it)
4. I know that taxi/ground roll is pretty unrealistic in FSX.In real T-38 steering is engaged only when the stick button is held pressed and a/c in on the gnd, but here there is no wheel steering command in FSX ( as far as I know) and that makes you to have steering even at 130KT ( given that at 135 you rotate). Can you made some way that steering could be engaged/disengaged, or automatically disengaged at some speed?
I said 'wishes', not criticism, so take it as it is,
Thank you
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Yes, the AoA vane is animated using the computed AoA for the gauge.

1. Considered and rejected. Too many issues with the reflective glass to mention them all, but given the lighting system I created for this cockpit, reflective glass turns opaque whenever the lights are on. That would make it rather difficult to use at night, eh?

2. Good suggestion! I've added it to my update bucket list.

3. Considered and rejected. Inclusion of those features bring the framerate to a crawl. The minimum acceptable target for this release was 25-29 fps on a mid-range system. When developing the final specifications, performance costs of features are weighed carefully.

4. Nosewheel steering is already inhibited whenever main gear break ground. I'll investigate whether it would be practical to condition the steering inhibit based on ground speed.
 
Paul:

I first tried flying this Navy style as well, ah, you know the results....

What seems to work, at least for me is to pretty much lock the stick at about 5 5-1/2 AOA units and control the glide path with the throttle. You want to be on a proper glide angle such as to need around 92% RPM. What you do not want to do is be steep and end up not spooled. You may want to leave the thrust on all of the way to the deck as the energy bleeds rapidly in any "flare" at idle.

Quite a satisfying flier once you get the "light bulb to come on".

Cheers: Tom
 
Glad to see everyone is having fun, and good screenshots! I had lots of problems with slowing down to much during testing too. I am so used to flying propeller birds, or tube liners that landing at the higher airspeeds was pretty foreign to me. So I crashed quite a number of T-38's all through testing. :icon_lol: As a side note, if you guys have not been on our forums. If you wish to join the T-38 support forum e-mail me at Roadburner440@milviz.com . We have seen quite a bit of sales on the T-38, but only 30 people join the support forum. Maybe that is a good thing, but I joined over at VRS when I bought the Superbug just in case I ever needed it. Maybe it is a good thing though that my box has not been flooded with mails. So far we are seeing lots of positive feedback. Also we are about to release the AI T-38, and military base modifications as freeware. So anyone who wants to download and check out the T-38's can do so.
 
Ok I think I'm getting the hang of this beastie. I'm still not getting the speed/AOA correct on approach. Here I am landing at Fresno. In the first pic I'm going slower than the book said I'm supposed to be at this point, but still my AOA says “fast”. I'm still coming too steep too, looks like. By the time I got to the runway it was looking a bit better, and the attitude at touch down looks more like the book says.

 
PRB said:
Ok I think I'm getting the hang of this beastie. I'm still not getting the speed/AOA correct on approach. Here I am landing at Fresno. In the first pic I'm going slower than the book said I'm supposed to be at this point, but still my AOA says “fast”. I'm still coming too steep too, looks like. By the time I got to the runway it was looking a bit better, and the attitude at touch down looks more like the book says.
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Actually, in your first picture you are underspeed and under AoA. While it's called the "Fast" indicator, what it's really telling you is that your AoA is too shallow.

Note that in the second picture your AoA is right on the sweet-spot of 0.55 to 0.65 units AoA, and you have the green doughnut. However, you're well below the glideslope and in a rather dangerous position.

The most important thing to remember: use power to control your AoA, use pitch to control your speed.

Read the section of the manual that covers the Air Force's recommended procedure for landing.
 
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