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A tragedy. The odds are small, but..........

"Aviation in itself is not inherently dangerous. But to an even greater degree than the sea, it is terribly unforgiving of any carelessness, incapacity or neglect."

A Quote I fly and teach by.
 
What I wonder after reading that story is how often the pilot practiced engine-out proceedures. Did he do it every two years at his bi-annual? That to me is not enough. I used to practice airwork about every 15-20 hours. I flew several planes at the time, and I wanted to stay on top of my emergencies in all of them. I also practiced engine outs at night, because things look a lot different at night! There is no such thing as too much preparation.

Don
 
same thing happened last friday or thursday night in modesto california,a family of 4,mom,dad and two young boys went down in a small piper and went into the side of a medical building ....
 
Well, it's a tragedy to be sure, but at least there's some very small comfort that their 16 year old daughter stayed home so was spared.
 
Some good points. Watercraft and their environment can be ruthlessly unforgiving. Families and friends tend to load up watercraft....

Automobiles.....the statistics are downright grim. I think we tend to numb-out the fate factor as we load our families into motor vehicles and trundle off to school, shopping, holidays, whatever....

Curiously, aviation mishaps always seem to polarize the public. Proven time and again to be one of the safest forms of transportation, stringently regulated, thouroughly safety minded in procedures, specs and requirements.

The mistake however, would be for one individual pilot to take another's operational philosophy in discussion as a personal affront.

It's not. It's the freedom of personal choice within a series of highly developed safety and operational regulations.

The term,"Pilot in Command", is applicable from the heaviest jet liner right down to the smallest ultralight. While pilots of all types can benefit from the exchange of their various experiences and wide ranging skills, it's most important not to allow emotionality not to become a negative co-dependant experience. That manifestation alone can be a great encumbrance to human decision making. Don't fall for it.

If some choose to personalize, misinterpret, and express offence in order to gain a power position in a verbal or written disagreement, that's their choice. We can choose not to fall into the same trap and carry on.

Fly safe, fly prepared, fly with confidence. And revel in the freedom of choice. That's what General Aviation is supposed to be about.
 
Re: Same

Hopefully the 16 yr old daughter had grandparents or other relatives to live with
and sad that she lost the rest of her family, My sympathies to her. :(
 
A tragedy indeed. If I were a pilot (and a much better pilot than I pretend to be on my computer), I would feel a lot more secure in loading my entire family up in my plane and taking them for a trip than I would in loading them up in a mini-van and heading out on the interstate. Pilots are highly regulated, must pass many levels of certifications, must re-certify regularly, they must maintain their planes and have them inspected and certified. That's all good. Now look at people driving cars....many folks get their DLs when they are 16 and never again have to have their abilities retested, other than a quick vision test every 4 years. People drive drunk, stoned, on cell phones, while putting on make up, eating and brushing their teeth (Deb and I actually saw a woman brushing her teeth as she was driving down the street). Cars are not inspected on an annual or bi-annual basis....there are cars on the roads that are best suited for crushing. And there are far fewer planes in the air than there are cars on the highway.

Yep, if I were a pilot I would much rather take my family via my own plane than my own car.

OBIO
 
there are cars on the roads that are best suited for crushing.

A lot of those on the roads around here. But given the economy and unemployment in this part of the country, a lot of folks cant afford anything better. Saw one rolling down the road on two donut spares the other day.
 
I guess Ken thought I was questioning his abilities as a pilot.
Along with what bushpounder and Wulf190 said, every pilot should question their ability and continually practice and review for the unexpected.

This event is a tragedy and the very reason why corporate executives never ever travel together.
 
(Deb and I actually saw a woman brushing her teeth as she was driving down the street).

I heard a story about the police pulling a woman over who was weaving all over a residental street to find her putting on her panty hose and driving at the same time.

-James
 
It is sad and tragedies that involve aircraft always make headlines, but we do tend to turn a blind eye to all the fatalities involving collisions on our roads and highways. Given a choice between flying and driving, I actually feel safer in the air.
 
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