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Why Is There so few Native Freeware Airplanes For FSX?

the problem is down to the VC's, it is true. You are correct that people do now EXPECT payware quality VC's in freeware. From a devleopers side, making the exterior, is easy compared to making a fully functional, and true to life VC to please people. In Fs9 times, you could knock up a decent external and fit a 2d panel and relelase it.

Now, you have to make a VC, which in my experience takes 5 times longer than the external. If I produce a FSX aircraft with no VC, people will not download it, simple.

I also get many complaints on the standard of the VC's, but I have grown a thick skin now, and really do not care. People need to realise, that what they are getting is free, and be thankful, or delete it, but do not complain. Only when people start this, will more developers release free FSX stuff, as the fear of being slagged off on a forum for poor VC's will have gone.

just my thoughts:salute:
 
About an hour worth of copy/paste, but this is what I could find! All native FsX models!

Tim Conrad: A-12A, An-32, MS760 Paris, Pilatus PC-6C, Fairchild PT-19, T-33, Pilatus PC-7, Northrop
F-5A, OH6A, Mitsubishi J2M3, AA-5B Tiger, Sus Scrofa SS4P, A29B Super Tucano, Aviatika MAI-890,
Douglas A-1 Skyraider, Saab J-21, Zlin Z-50L, Boeing 7072 Orion, Zeus Aerospace Viper SF.MK.II and
Cyber Aero CR-14 Raiding Craft, Aero Commander-Meyers 200D, SOKO J-20, Mooney Mite, Northrop XP-56,
Grumman OV-1 Mohawk, Waco UPF-7, OV-10A Bronco, Mitsubishi T-2, Mitsubishi F-1, Kyushu J7W1 Shinden,

Britsim: Meteor NF14, Meteor Mk.8, DH Hornet, DH Vampire, Twin Pioneer, Fairey Gannet, Sea Venom,
Auster J1, Beagle Basset,

Dave Garwood: Hawker Hunters, DH-89 Dragon, Bristol Beaufighter,

Dino Cattaneo: Boeing T-45 Goshawk, F14D Tomcat,

Milton Shupe: DH-80 Puss Moth, Beech D18S, Spartan, Howard 500

Manfred Jahn: Douglas C-47,

Rien Cornelissen: Fokker Spin

Warwick Carter: GeeBee Z, T-6 Texan,

FS KBT: Kawasaki T-4,

Ivan Jurcaga: MiG-21MF,

Rollus: Mirage 2000,

Bookmark: Saab Draken,

Simshed: Nimrod, Grob Tutor,

Tom's FSAdd-ons: Zivko 540 Edge,

Alphasim/Virtavia: AH-1 Cobra, Sikorsky S-55, Se.5a, T-28 Trojan,

Thomas Ruth: Antonov An-124, An-225,Airbus A300, A310, A330, A340, Beluga, Boeing 727, Lockheed L-
1011

Royale French Navy: Etendard IV

Ant: Tiger Moth,

Jens Kristensen: Vickers Viscount, Bristol Brittania, Short Hythe/Solent/Empire, HP Hermes,

Flying Stations: Fairey Swordfish, Westland Wyvern,

Paul Clawson: Convair R3Y-1, Fairchild Super 71, Martin MB-2 Bomber, Northrop BT-1 Dive Bomber,
Keystone B-6A, Douglas O-43, Consolidated Commodore, Northrop A-17, Douglas XB-19, Vultee BT-13,
Curtiss SC-1 Seahawk, Grumman XF5F-1 Skyrocket, Saunders Roe SR-45, Amiot 143, Douglas O-46,
McDonnell FH-1 Phantom, Curtiss SOC-3 Seagull, Waco SRE Aristocrat, Ryan YO-51 Dragonfly, Potez 540,
Curtiss F9C-2 Sparrowhawk, Boeing F4B-4, Aeronca Chief, Boeing P-12E, Airspeed Horsa Glider, Howard
DGA-15P, Curtiss CW-1, Stinson 108 Voyager,

DoughBree designs: Aero L-159, Zlin 137T

Philippe Penot: SO-4050 Vautour

Samdim: Mudry Cap 10B

Restauravia: Fouga Zephyr, Mystere IV

FS Glider: Schleicher ASW 15 B, Schleicher ASK21, Schleicher ASH 25, Glaser-Dirks DG-101, Glaser-
Dirks DG-202, Glasflügel Libelle, Rolladen-Schneider LS-4, Rolladen-Schneider LS-7, Rolladen-
Schneider LS8-18, Schempp-Hirth Discus CS, Schempp-Hirth Discus 2b, Schempp-Hirth Duo Discus 'X',
LET-Blanik l-13, SZD-Bocian, Scheibe SF-28 Tandem-Falke

Lukasz Kubacki: RWD-8, RWD-10,

Michal Puto: Lublin R.XIII

FS Northwest: Bell 47

Virtual Wings Avia BH-5

Hovercontrol: Enstrom 280FX, Eurocopter AS332L2, Hughes 269C, Piasecki H-21C

Dirk Stuck: Curtiss Jenny, BO-105,

Hadi Tahir: MiG-25 Foxbat, Aero L-39, IPTN N-250-100, Nakajima Night Fighter Type-11 Gekkou, HAIG L-
15, Yakovlev Yak 141, Yakovlev Yak-130

Jean-Michel Castagne: Bleriot IX

Classic Wings: Luscombe Silvaire, Eastbourne, Lohner M/S/L/R/T, DH Comet, Baby Ace,

Mario Noriega: Piaggio P180 Avanti,

Simon Smeiman: Stingray,

David Rowberry: LAK Genesis 2,

Deane Baunton: PAC Cresco

A 'mere' 165 different FsX native models and the list is far from complete..! Perhaps not all are up to A2A Accu-sim standard, but there's the difference between free- and payware!
 
I will add to your list

UKMIL: Tornado GR1/4 - ADV- IDS
UKMIL Harrier GR7/9/10
UKMIL Chinook
UKMIL Puma Hc2
UKMIL Seaking
UKMIL C130 K
UKMIL Grob Tutor
UKMIL C17
UKMIL T38
UKMIL E-3D Sentry

All NATIVE, and all FREE:applause::applause:
 
sparouty said:
It took me 18 months to built my last FSX model, do I accept to finish the next one in Summer 2013?!?
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2020 is okay, too as long as it's freeware.



UKMIL said:
Only when people start this, will more developers release free FSX stuff, as the fear of being slagged off on a forum for poor VC's will have gone.
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Don't forget the requests...the eternal flood of requests.

"Yeah, sure, nice work and model, but I want that other plane that you absolutely don't care about. But whatever, I want it and since I'm too dumb to do it myself I will bug you or other developers until I have the model in the sim."

Cue "No requests. Thx." in readmes.
 
Bjoern said:
Don't forget the requests...the eternal flood of requests.

"Yeah, sure, nice work and model, but I want that other plane that you absolutely don't care about. But whatever, I want it and since I'm too dumb to do it myself I will bug you or other developers until I have the model in the sim."
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It wouldn't be so annoying if people would at least thank you for what you've already done before feeling the need to tell you what you should do next :) . That's the problem with FS development. Too many chiefs and not enough indians.
 
That is a great list Ferry! I'd like to start a new thread with your post uder the heading "FsX native freeware aircraft available" and keep it stickied for a while. Let me know if you're ok with that.

Thanks,

Roger.
 
UKMIL said:
the problem is down to the VC's, it is true ... From a devleopers side, making the exterior, is easy compared to making a fully functional and true to life VC [...]
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Well this could be at the advantage of FSX developpers and users, not the opposite.

Some developper could focus only on the exterior (many already do) and the user alias the VC to an already existing VC, as FSX enable us to do so. With the 737, 747 and 777 by Opensky, you can "attach" the VC from the default FSX corresponding Boeings, and voila you have a wonderful plane! (edit: for the 777 I'm still looking for an alternative to the 737/747 VC...).

Same with the Lockheed L1011 from Erick Cantu/Tom Ruth. Instead of the 737 VC I used the 727 VC by Tom Ruth. Not quite right (at least it's a 3 engine cockpit now) but its fun and FSX native!

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And last evening I've assembled together a wonderful native FSX Beechcraft King Air B200 by ISDT with the default King Air VC and gauges, with a wide screen 2D panel. Payware quality with freeware price! Less work for the developper, easy enough and very pleasing for the user, plenty of new repaints, "cute" smaller look for the King Air for those bored by the 350 default version, etc...

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ISDT B200: http://isdt-israel.com/projects/projects.htm
Scenery by Orbx (PNW around Bowerman)
FS9 Aeroworx wide panel bitmap from avsimrus
FS9 Iris Tornado GPS/HSI map
 
anthony31 said:
It wouldn't be so annoying if people would at least thank you for what you've already done before feeling the need to tell you what you should do next :) . That's the problem with FS development. Too many chiefs and not enough indians.
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"Subject: Thank You Björn!

Your repaints are amazing! You made my week when I got on flightsim.com and saw your awesome multi-pack.


I will honor your request and not give you a paint request, I just wanted to say hello and thank you so much for improving my FSX experience."


Best FSX-related e-mail I got in a looooong time.

Yielded a Facebook friendship.


If only this would happen more often...



vonstroheim said:
Some developper could focus only on the exterior (many already do) and the user alias the VC to an already existing VC, as FSX enable us to do so. With the 737, 747 and 777 by Opensky, you can "attach" the VC from the default FSX corresponding Boeings, and voila you have a wonderful plane! (edit: for the 777 I'm still looking for an alternative to the 737/747 VC...).
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Yeah, this is quite a possibility, but not many have caught up on it.
 
I keep seeing "If it doesn't have a VC no-one will download it."

Well I'm part of the small minority that would, as I don't like VC's. I don't fly for realism, I fly for fun, and I like to be able to look 360' and see what's around me. If I need buttons and switches a 2D panel will do me just fine, but most of the time I fly from my mini panel view.

In fact, I wish more developers would at least offer an option of a model without VC as some do. I'd take that model every time.
 
Astoroth said:
I keep seeing "If it doesn't have a VC no-one will download it."

Well I'm part of the small minority that would, as I don't like VC's. I don't fly for realism, I fly for fun, and I like to be able to look 360' and see what's around me. If I need buttons and switches a 2D panel will do me just fine, but most of the time I fly from my mini panel view.

In fact, I wish more developers would at least offer an option of a model without VC as some do. I'd take that model every time.
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If you want to get rid of the VC, you can either:

- Delete the "Interior=..." line from the aicraft's model.cfg
or
- Edit the default camera.cfg to omit the VC from the default view selection list


No need for messing about in the model itself.
 
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