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  • Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

    Post 16 Update

    Post 17 Warning

A Star(fighter) in the making!

The accuracy of overall flight dynamics ? Knowing that SSW is a product of love of some real F-104 riders, who actually were flying this particular aircraft, IMO there won't ever be any MS FS F-104 product with FD as accurate as SSW's (within FSX's limitations). Try following each Functional Check Flight checklist step with SSW F-104S V3.0 and you'll need no more to agree.
The detail of systems modelling SSW's F-104S systems are a representation of real F-104S's ones, flying up to some years ago in Italy . If A2A devs want to match its level of accuracy they have to find the only F-104's still flying (STARFIGHTER TEAM) and study the real stuff and then model f-104G and not F-104A/C.

Model/VC/textures: Maybe A2A will show better than the current F-104S V3.0 (maybe), however SSW had promised constant upgrades to the model and also V3.0 is already pretty enough.

MY CONCLUSION: Once A2A's F-104 is ready and F-104S is upgraded I'm expecting two very nice planes asking you to have both (like AEROSOFT's and IRIS's F-16's), Each one will have its advantages, but, Flight Dynamics and System's modeling of the SSW is really hard to beat.
 
Guys?? I'm going to ask, whats wrong with having two superlative craft to choose from by seperate companies. I see it as nothing shorter than a boon for the community. I for one am glad to have both SSW AND A2A doing these planes.. However, what i am NOT glad at is seeing this thread turn into a pissing match. Its no longer a discussion as much as it is an argument. Get it civilized or I lock the thread.
Pam
 
khaast said:
STARFIGHTERS are CF-104/Ds, not Gs.
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Your CF-104/D's have a lot more in common with the "G" than with the "C":). I don't mind A2A doing a "C"-model if they also do a "G" (I'd even settle for the TF-version of the G). You just can't leave out the most succesful variant that made the Starfighter the "Deal of the Century" (long before the F-16) instead a mere footnote in aviation history. Trust me on this, you can't:engel016:.
 
Lawman said:
Your CF-104/D's have a lot more in common with the "G" than with the "C":). I don't mind A2A doing a "C"-model if they also do a "G" (I'd even settle for the TF-version of the G). You just can't leave out the most succesful variant that made the Starfighter the "Deal of the Century" (long before the F-16) instead a mere footnote in aviation history. Trust me on this, you can't:engel016:.
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Agreed, any G-model is a must.
 
khaast said:
STARFIGHTERS are CF-104/Ds, not Gs.
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Yes sir. The Team STARFIGHTERS are CF-104D and a couple CF-104. With more in the future...As in "S".

Yep, the "F-104D" will have the large tail but modeling the systems would be easier for the A/B/C/D. No INS for starters.
Cheers
 
Lawman said:
"Deal of the Century" (long before the F-16)
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With the minor difference that Starfighters had to best the competition via bribery in more than one case.

The so-called "Deal of the Century" produced substantial income for Lockheed. However, the resulting Lockheed bribery scandals caused considerable political controversy in Europe and Japan. In Germany, the Minister of Defence Franz Josef Strauss was accused of having received at least US$10 million for West Germany's purchase of the F-104 Starfighter in 1961.[SUP][28][/SUP] Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands later confessed to having received more than US$1 million in bribes. In the 1970s it was revealed that Lockheed had engaged in an extensive campaign of bribery of foreign officials to obtain sales, a scandal that nearly led to the downfall of the ailing corporation.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-104
 
That's why it was the deal of the century. You buy a highly sophisticated aircraft and get a few free millions on top! :icon_lol:

I knew I Prince had been naughty, but I didn't know "der Franz" had received some pocket money as well!

Cheers,
Huub
 
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