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New FSX Aircraft in development?

I too would like to see a built for FSX T-38 Talon. I used both the previous FSD freeware and payware versions.

Jeff
 
Well, I am unaware of any plans to do anything with the T-38, ...Oh, and I realize that the FSD release history has been frustrating to some...this is not a full-time job for most of the group, and cracks like the "FS18" one are getting old. Have you ever made a plane from scratch? :kilroy:

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I recognize your loyalty to FSD and desire to defend them. It also seems FSD has had some rough times since the introduction of FSX. If I remember correctly, one of the three left to move down the street. Places like AVSIM and Flightsim have had threads where everyone body jumps on FSD.

However, FSD is not a freeware producer. They did make the free T-38 back in the FS8 days and, it was bundled rather with a C-19 for FS9. Still, they are a for profit organization.

We the consumers, have certain expectations of freebie producers, such as you with the Thorp or Piglet and his aircraft and, another set for commercial producers.

Timing is important in both comedy and business. RealityXP had a wonderful Garmin 55 that I used in FS9. By the time they made it for FSX I had given up and moved on. I still haven't bought it. The same may be true for the Dreamfleet Barron. If Real air comes out with the Duke first, there will be no need for a Barron in my FSX hanger.

So, while I can understand your frustration with "FS18" comments, they reflect the frustrations of consumers. Most of us do not have inside lines to FSD to say, "We are waiting but not patiently."

Actually, if I had an inside line I would say, "Make the T-38C!!!!"

[FONT=&quot]I don’t think ColoKent was pointing fingers at you personally. I think he was expressing the frustrations of all FS consumers who wait for a certain product from a vendor only to hear silence from the vendor.
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jmig is right...

...I'm not trying to be "mean" to developers-- payware or freeware.

I absolutely will not push on freeware developers regarding the pace of their projects-- they are doing the community a service.

It is true however, that I expect regular, discrete updates from companies that are building payware that they promote ahead of time and expect the community to buy. Put quite simply, if a company decides to produce a product for pay (vs. freeware), the rules change, and the expectation is higher. If working to a schedule and communicating it's progress bothers you or anyone else in the payware community, perhaps freeware is the direction to go. That is all I meant with my "FS18" comment.

Perhaps the best thing FSD could do for their credibility would be to not announce the next three projects three years in advance (aka lower our expectations). Many other companies have done that...heck, there are freeware developers on this board that limit knowledge about what they are working on until they deliver it. By doing so, they completely aviod the issue of delivery expectations.

Hope that helped clarify what I was saying....

Kent :mixedsmi:

P.S. I second jmig's request: T-38 please!
 
Hey guys, I understand what you're saying...and I guess I might have sounded a bit defensive on my original offering. Certainly I was not trying to create an issue. For whatever reason it just struck a nerve...not sure why. I do have a desire to be good at what I do, and although my main job at FSD since I came onboard last May is to work on the conversions I do take the title of 'team member' seriously. To that end I find that I often bristle over topics that come up even though I have (or had) nothing to do with them :banghead:

What you guys say does make sense. I need to stay looking forward :mixedsmi:

Kent, there is one plane coming soon to FSD that is not even on the web page...at least not yet. Most of the crowd here knows what it is, and it's getting close to done (I hope) :d
 
Well...

...that is some GREAT news, as you guys do turn out great stuff!

[Avanti...Avanti...Avanti!]

(And no, I'm not fishing for a hint!)

Regards,

Kent :wiggle:
 
I think all commercial developers can take a lesson from Aerosoft and the F-16. That plane took a long time to be delivered. It missed its delivery date by at least three months.

However, Aerosoft kept feeding us pictures and tidbits of what was going on. That was enough to feed the wolves at the door. People waited. Some even thanked Aerosoft for waiting to get it right.

All the pictures and forum posts (something like 47 pages) built up desire and hunger for the plane. When it came out, you could hardly download it because of all the purchases trying to download at the same time.
 
Guys:

Please give us a break.. we are trying to do something different with our soon to come releases.

Robert can attest to some of the reasons we have delayed the C115.. and this is to accomodate request for added features and improvements. I think Robert can add to this as well as he asked me to carry out a change that I have to agree has added deapth to the project. The Commander hopefully will be something very different indeed.

The Jetstar was basically complete for FS9 but it was a group agreement to convert the whole product to FSX SP2 and take advantage of the new technologies. As to releaase date... I will have the Jetstar into FSX in about three months after the C115 comes out and I suppose the JSII will see the light of day towards the middle of the year.

As for the Talon.... this is not a priority, but if I can find a few minutes I will do some work on it and see if Tim can update the avionics... BUT this is not a promise.... we have to many other projects in the oven as Robert has already mentioned.

After the release of the Commander the new Navajo will follow. Hopefully followed by Robert's Thorp and the the Seneca, the Jetstar, and the Porters followed by the 337/O2A and then others. Next year will be very busy for all of us here at FSD and WE WILL NOT LET YOU DOWN.

Best and Regards

Jim
 
I look forward to all FSX products and developements - this is a great place to discuss them...sometimes people let their passion get the best of them.

Try not to get upset - we are here to enjoy this hobby together...

Believe me - I have my own personal wants and desires for FSX and beyond.. and part of the frustration some people are expressing might really be related to their own inability to contribute - IE: I'd love to be able to create the things I'd most like to see in FSX and am slightly frustrated at having to wait for others to do the work. This makes it easy to be hyper critical at times of the addons if and when they do come along and thats not fair to the guys who did the work.

Thanks to all who work to make FSX better by providing either for pay or for free - the addons that the rest of us are 'pressing' for..:ernae:
 
Once again...

...I agree with jmig-- if you're going to announce a project, keep the tidbits coming. Aerosoft is a good example of a company that has done a reasonable job of whetting people's appetites.

And an earlier poster had a great point-- we all (me included) need to pinch ourselves once in a while and remember this is a game we are talking about, and to put it all in the right perspective.

K.
 
...I agree with jmig-- if you're going to announce a project, keep the tidbits coming. Aerosoft is a good example of a company that has done a reasonable job of whetting people's appetites.

And an earlier poster had a great point-- we all (me included) need to pinch ourselves once in a while and remember this is a game we are talking about, and to put it all in the right perspective.

K.

GAME? GAME??
You dare use the "G" word in here. Kids play games. We fly simulators!

:costumes:

Ok off to fly my gam...simulator.
 
Look...

...I have to tell myself it's a game every so often-- or I'll spend every spare second in FSX flying my Neptunes out of KSLI on a sunny morning.

Kent
 
Wow!

I just bought the MicroSim T-37 Tweet (FS9, since an FSX compatible version is not available).

That thing is GREAT!

I wish the Microsim guys would do some tweaking (because I don't see a HUGE number of things wrong with the airplane in FSX that probably couldn't be patched....I ABSOLUTELY do not feel the airplane would need to be rebuilt. Basically, from playing with it in FSX, I've found that the intake spoilers do not retract and extend automatically (as they do in FS9), and there are guage issues that prevent the engines from running, and most instruments from working.

Visually though, the T-37 is a STUNNER in FSX. I'd LOVE to super-detail a a bare metal 1960's ATC version. The T-37 was born to be BARE METAL in my mind.

This thing is great...now if we could just get it in FSX!

Kent
 
I just bought the MicroSim T-37 Tweet (FS9, since an FSX compatible version is not available).

That thing is GREAT!

I wish the Microsim guys would do some tweaking (because I don't see a HUGE number of things wrong with the airplane in FSX that probably couldn't be patched....I ABSOLUTELY do not feel the airplane would need to be rebuilt. Basically, from playing with it in FSX, I've found that the intake spoilers do not retract and extend automatically (as they do in FS9), and there are guage issues that prevent the engines from running, and most instruments from working.

Visually though, the T-37 is a STUNNER in FSX. I'd LOVE to super-detail a a bare metal 1960's ATC version. The T-37 was born to be BARE METAL in my mind.

This thing is great...now if we could just get it in FSX!

Kent


:ques: I don't recall that plane having movable intake spoilers. You were lucky if you could get the plane to go fast enough to fly, much less worry about air compression in the intakes.

Seriously, it was a good little plane in which to learn to fly. You really had to work hard at killing yourself (although I once did try) and the abuse that thing could take. Ouch! LOL Some day I will have to tell you guys how the instructor got me to stop letting the nose gear touch down on T & GOs. :d
 
The VC isn't flyable - the HUD is "silvered out" - the old FS9-in-FSX transparency problem. It should be easy to fix by replacing the alpha, but no-one has been able to find the texture to change it!

Ian P.


Good news Ian,

Thanks to Felix, I've got a neat program which allows me to 'capture' 3d meshes from FS9.. Good news is that I now have my Goshawk & Harrier in 3DS Max.. ;)

So next year you'll likely see an FSX Native Harrier GR7 package, freeware or payware has yet to be decided, although the external model is nice enough to do a new payware pack with a new VC...

So many things, so little time.
 
A very good news indeed Smudge but .......

What about a full brand new FSX AV-8B Plus ( Radar Equipped ) with colors for :

Us Marine Corps
Spanish "Armada"
and
Italian "Marina"

Let us Know !

Greetings !
:mixedsmi: ( I check my six )
VaporZ
 
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