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Airport locations_Satellite Imagery or FSX?

Whats key in my thread is "This is what you are doing when you move an airport and no one else does." The guys you are flying with don't know you moved the airport or don't have your airport. Thats why the are landing on the grass on your computer. What do you expect?
 
JoeW said:
Whats key in my thread is "This is what you are doing when you move an airport and no one else does." The guys you are flying with don't know you moved the airport or don't have your airport. That's why the are landing on the grass on your computer. What do you expect?
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I expect that I'll continue doing exactly what I've been doing. The guys I fly with know exactly what I've done because I let them know prior to our flights and the fact that they are parking on the grass is no mystery to me JoeW. . .I'm well aware of the fact that they are parked that way because their AFCAD is incorrect. They aren't going to worry about it because the airports we fly to. . .in 99% of the cases, we will never fly to again as a group and for us that's the only time it's noticeable.

The fact that it's noticeable to me is the reason I asked the original question, which basically was and still is. . .if folks are going to go to the trouble of remaking an airport, why not do it correctly and use satellite imagery to base their work on rather than simply redoing an old AFCAD that was incorrect to begin with? That's the way I see it, I don't care if anyone else has a problem with it, they (you) are welcome to disagree as much and as often as necessary. . .it is your right to do so. Just don't expect me to suddenly say. . .Wow, ya know what. . .you're right!:salute:
 
Ed, I would like to know how you use satellite imagery as a template for your airfield mods. Some time ago I started to use AFCAD 2.21 to build Naval Air Station Glenview in FS9. As you already know from FSX, it wasn't a case of modifying a default airfield because Glenview wasn't included in FS9, it's long gone in real life and replaced by upscale condos and shopping malls. I didn't have Google Earth installed at the time so I used a topographic map, an old airport diagram, and a couple good aerial pics I got from websites. Got the two runways positioned just right, then some family events occurred and I never went back to the project. I would like to finish it so it looks at least as complete as the Glenview you did in FSX so any suggestions are welcome.
 
Somehow Ed, I was reading this thread as a complaint on your part about the people you were flying with in multiplayer parking on the grass and landing and taking off on the grass. On re-reading this thread I don't see it that way. I'm sorry about some of my replies as I read it wrong.
What I do is use Skyvector to find the airport and download a diagram with the parking areas, names of the taxiways, and actual coords of the airport and runway heading with the north deviation. You can import that into ADE and after re-aligning the runway to fit the diagram you can alter the taxiways to fit the diagram. Thats about as close as you can get.
 
In some areas the magnetic drift has been fairly rapid, with the FSX base now being off several degrees from the current magnetic headings for runway and approach alignment. This is especially true here in Alaska. Not sure what Prepare3d uses?

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TARPSBird said:
Ed, I would like to know how you use satellite imagery as a template for your airfield mods. Some time ago I started to use AFCAD 2.21 to build Naval Air Station Glenview in FS9. As you already know from FSX, it wasn't a case of modifying a default airfield because Glenview wasn't included in FS9, it's long gone in real life and replaced by upscale condos and shopping malls. I didn't have Google Earth installed at the time so I used a topographic map, an old airport diagram, and a couple good aerial pics I got from websites. Got the two runways positioned just right, then some family events occurred and I never went back to the project. I would like to finish it so it looks at least as complete as the Glenview you did in FSX so any suggestions are welcome.
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My main program is SBuilderX. That's how I capture the satellite imagery I want. I also do excludes and flattens from there, add water poly's (lakes, rivers, etc) and add or change landclass, among other things. For the actual AFCAD I use AFX. It's in this program that I insert the satellite image. . .when you select that option in AFX it requires that you input the correct coordinates for the image (contained in a file within SBuilderX). Once you do that, the image is resized and positioned correctly and you can start from that point to adjust the rwy/taxiways/parking ramps. Normally I delete everything except the rwy simply because it's easier to redo the taxiways and parking ramps than try to adjust and they're usually way off anyway.
 
Ed, thanks for the info, it's most appreciated. :salute: You're way more up on this airfield construction than I am, so beware, I may ask you more questions in the future. My job #1 is finishing my NAS Glenview in FS9 before I attempt anything in FSX. I'm thinking Sky Harbor Airport in my hometown of Northbrook, IL might be a nice entry-level FSX project. I would definitely have to include the cool arch-roof hangar.
http://members.tripod.com/airfields_freeman/IL/Airfields_IL_Chicago_N.htm#skyharbor
 
TARPSBird said:
Ed, thanks for the info, it's most appreciated. :salute: You're way more up on this airfield construction than I am, so beware, I may ask you more questions in the future. My job #1 is finishing my NAS Glenview in FS9 before I attempt anything in FSX. I'm thinking Sky Harbor Airport in my hometown of Northbrook, IL might be a nice entry-level FSX project. I would definitely have to include the cool arch-roof hangar.
http://members.tripod.com/airfields_freeman/IL/Airfields_IL_Chicago_N.htm#skyharbor
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That does look like a great little airport with very recognizable buildings. Are those original buildings still in use? (Just finished reading the entire article and that answered the previous question, lol) I'd be glad to answer any questions you have in the future. Best of luck with Glenview and your future projects!:salute:
 
Ed, thanks again and allow me to share a memory with you. When I was a kid we lived on the approach to Rwy 17 at Glenview, little more than a mile up the road. This was long before cable TV and any aircraft landing on 17 would cause our TV picture to go totally weird. Then in 1957 my grandma and uncle moved to a new house less than a mile from Sky Harbor and we'd still get TV interference from the planes. :icon_lol: Except now the planes were smaller and they had to fly darn near right over the house to mess up the TV.
Back in the 1930's a local airline named Gray Goose used to fly Ford Tri-Motors out of Sky Harbor. I wish I had at least one good pic of a Gray Goose aircraft, that's one company that's missing from that vast assortment of Tri-Motor repaints that Garry Smith has done.
 
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