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S-3 Viking-Dino's at it again!

I've been around the Hoover's myself during a few cruises I made on assorted "bat barges". I am all familiar with their distinctive Woop Woop Sounds that the General Electric TF34 engines made. Those
engines are also used in the A-1o "Hog" some how in the hog you don't hear those Wooop Wooop sounds like you do in the Viking.
 
I never had the joy being USCG to get close to a S3 on the ground. I only seen a S3 Viking once and that was at KNGP on the USCG Ramp. Didnt catch it's markings, but figured the USN parked it by us for testing purposes as we also have a E-2 there. I would have liked to land, but I had a Hot Dolphin needing to be cooled.
 
Guys,

Thanks for your enthusiasm, but don't hold your breath! It is just an announcement at the moment...and we know what is the relevance of announcements, in our hobby.
It will take months before there is anything flyable... and it is too bad that I lost the publication that was sent me directly from Lockheed Martin, many years ago (I started an S-3 project for FS2004, but never went ahead... and contacted LM to get some pics of the cockpit....and they were so kind to provide a very informative volume on the S-3).

I've carefully considered what to do next, and the S-3 is definitely a machine worth working on...

Anyway, I have to say that I am sorry for those who were expecting an Aermacchi MB.339 from me. I love the Frecce Tricolori - they are one of the reasons why I am proud of being Italian... fact is preliminary work was simply not good enough.
 
When I was stationed at Patuxent River in the early 70s, the S-3 was still being tested. I remember hearing the sound of the Viking engines, and thinking (compared to the Phantom and the Tomcat) that they didn't sound very powerful.

The Phantom had a distinctive sound. It howled. If a Phantom was flying overhead, I didn't have to look up to know that. It was unique. Same thing with the Intruder. When aboard ship, and a A-6 was launched, the sound was deafening, if you were in the hangar bay without ear protection!

NC
 
Similar Memories (at KNZY KNZC KNPA, etc.)

Navy Chief said:
When I was stationed at Patuxent River in the early 70s, the S-3 was still being tested. I remember hearing the sound of the Viking engines, and thinking (compared to the Phantom and the Tomcat) that they didn't sound very powerful.

The Phantom had a distinctive sound. It howled. If a Phantom was flying overhead, I didn't have to look up to know that. It was unique. Same thing with the Intruder. When aboard ship, and a A-6 was launched, the sound was deafening, if you were in the hangar bay without ear protection!

NC
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I remember the same sort of thing. Navy Chief, you likely know all the following stuff, but for those who don't...here goes.

S-3 had different missions (of course) than F-4, F-14. S-3A designed to be fuel efficient (for its day) so it could stay on station for its ASW mission (low level, sonobouy pattern drop / monitor, "MAD", ESM, etc.). The TF-34 engine was used (as stated earlier) on the A-10 and is not a supersonic engine (it is a "high bypass turbofan, not axial flow like the "turn and burn" guys). That engine became the CF-34 and is likely the most successful commercial engine of all time. It hangs on many popular (if you call tube liners popular) Bombardier and Embraer aircraft. I could go on and on, but I will finish with one thought. "There I was, laying on the beach at Coronado, Corona in hand. What's that vacuum noise I hear in the distance? It's just the duty VS-41 "Hoover" on approach to 29!"
 
rvn817j said:
I remember the same sort of thing. Navy Chief, you likely know all the following stuff, but for those who don't...here goes.

S-3 had different missions (of course) than F-4, F-14. S-3A designed to be fuel efficient (for its day) so it could stay on station for its ASW mission (low level, sonobouy pattern drop / monitor, "MAD", ESM, etc.). The TF-34 engine was used (as stated earlier) on the A-10 and is not a supersonic engine (it is a "high bypass turbofan, not axial flow like the "turn and burn" guys). That engine became the CF-34 and is likely the most successful commercial engine of all time. It hangs on many popular (if you call tube liners popular) Bombardier and Embraer aircraft. I could go on and on, but I will finish with one thought. "There I was, laying on the beach at Coronado, Corona in hand. What's that vacuum noise I hear in the distance? It's just the duty VS-41 "Hoover" on approach to 29!"
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Great information! I guess the TF-30, used by the Corsair II was a predecessor to the TF-34? I worked with a AD1 mech who would "fine tune" a Corsair II engine during high power tests, simply by the high pitched sound. He didn't use the gauges specified in the Maintenance Instruction Manuals (MIMS). He tweaked the thrust perfectly every time!

NC
 
Dino Cattaneo said:
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Anyway, I have to say that I am sorry for those who were expecting an Aermacchi MB.339 from me. I love the Frecce Tricolori - they are one of the reasons why I am proud of being Italian... fact is preliminary work was simply not good enough.
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I hope that means you've not given up on it, I find the light jets the most fun to fly, you can't just power yourself out of trouble and their agility just adds smiles.
 
@jetstreamsky

I've not given up... and, like many other italians, I love the Frecce Tricolori and am proud of them. But to make some sense, a new MB.339 should be substantially better than the existing renditions, which include the one for FS2004 made by Cloud 9...and my new one was not looking that good. When project don't look good from the beginning it is better to start again from scratch...and I don't have the time to do that, unfortunately.
So it is S-3 for this round, and then let' see.
 
Dino Cattaneo said:
@jetstreamsky

I've not given up... and, like many other italians, I love the Frecce Tricolori and am proud of them. But to make some sense, a new MB.339 should be substantially better than the existing renditions, which include the one for FS2004 made by Cloud 9...and my new one was not looking that good. When project don't look good from the beginning it is better to start again from scratch...and I don't have the time to do that, unfortunately.
So it is S-3 for this round, and then let' see.
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....I can't even tell you how excited I am that you chose the S-3; After the Viking is released I will only have one aircraft left on my wish list...everything else is already made lol
 
Dino Cattaneo said:
@jetstreamsky

I've not given up... and, like many other italians, I love the Frecce Tricolori and am proud of them. But to make some sense, a new MB.339 should be substantially better than the existing renditions, which include the one for FS2004 made by Cloud 9...and my new one was not looking that good. When project don't look good from the beginning it is better to start again from scratch...and I don't have the time to do that, unfortunately.
So it is S-3 for this round, and then let' see.
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Will look forward to the S-3, but am really happy you havent given up on the MB.339. it and its sibling, the Yak-130 are a couple of outstanding trainers that really deserve to be shown off to the world..
 
@Warchild

Well, the MB.339 is probably the most beloved aicraft here in Italy...and one of the reasons why I put the project on standby is that we love it so much that we'd like to have a perfect rendition... may be I set the bar too high on this, but the preliminary work was not as good as I wanted.

The M.346 (for those who do not know, the Macchi 346 is derivative of the Yak-130 - although there are many differences) also is a very interesting machine - and is very good looking too... Well, I wish I had more time.

At the moment the S-3 looks very promising...but I've just begun working on it, and it will take several months to have something flyable. But, for the moment, I am quite happy with it - although I have not decided which version I will do (-A or -B)...
 
I'm looking forward to that S-3, and I'll be looking forward to that MB.339.. I was working on a flight model for a yak 130 for another company which never reached completion. From the standpoint of what I do, youve got the honeywell fadec and flight systems in there and more powerful engines allowing for >mach1 flight.. Please do take your time with it. Its a plane worth loving and deserving of anyones very best..
Pam
 
@Warchild
Actually I've been briefly working on a very promising M.346 model which was given by another italian developer who could not complete it... it was really good, but the guy asked me to stop because he though he found the time to finish it himself - I believe some pics were posted here at SOH, too, but I have not heard from him for a while.

I had the chance to see the M.346 live and it is really good looking - and seems to be an outstanding trainer. Competition for the Eurotrainer program is tough, but the little Macchi seems to be a good contender.

Back on topic, I choose the S-3 as I believe it is a very interesting machine... but I believe there are some fellow Italian simmers which will kill me if I will not do a Macchi, sooner or later!
 
Dino Cattaneo said:
... but I believe there are some fellow Italian simmers which will kill me if I will not do a Macchi, sooner or later!
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You're perfectly right, yeah... :icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:
I'm joking, your works are always well appreciated, because of the magnificient quality, but a Macchino would be a dream... :wiggle:
 
I know the Viking is a ways from completion, but everything Dino creates is amazing! Looking forward to it, whenever it is done! Thanks Dino!

NC:very_drunk:
 
Well,

as you are aware of, with the release of P3Dv2 I have decided to update all my fSX fleet (T-45C, F-14D and F-35) so that the new sim is fully supported (and took the chance to add some features) - this took much more time than I expected, unfortunately.

as for the S-3 situation is as follows:
- the external model is complete (it is just missing the loadouts)
- the VC was halted because of quality and P3Dv2 issues... and will be redone.

So the release is months away, although I am considering a pre-alpha, release of only the external model (to start getting some feedback)...

By the way, as some of you may be aware of, I had the chance to fly on an Aermacchi MB.326 - and fell in love with it. So I also did some preliminary work on that.
 
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