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Warbirdsim's "Mustang Tales" Now Available!

Two versions of the Sea Mustang in Canadian colours. Assuming a small batch (say 20) to equip one squadron (803) on HMCS Magnificent from about 1950 the first paint shows the aircraft as delivered with an Extra Dark Sea Grey over Sky scheme with an early RCN roundel, the second towards the end of its service around 1955 in the later pattern. Both are schemes applied to the RCN's Sea Furies (note to self - put these on the FS Sea Fury, idiot!:kilroy:). The serial follows on from the final RCAF Mustang (9600).

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DaveQ
 
Dave, if you mean 44-72986, it has the same badge/emblem as seen here (Wyoming ANG): http://jetpilotoverseas.wordpress.c...amin-g-nelson-and-national-guard-pilots-1948/

I'm thinking that the circle around the emblem is red, and then the sky of course blue with white mountains and black cowboy/horse. This is the Wyoming ANG patch: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wyoming_Air_National_Guard_-_Emblem.png

And John, I have seen that photo of the Minnesota ANG example with the longer 165-gallon tanks. I'll put something together for the "FF-197" model, using the existing Minnesota ANG Mustang textures, which will allow it to have the long tanks (in one of the photos I have of the Minnesota ANG Mustang that I depicted for 'Mustang Tales', it is shown fitted with those largest of external tanks, but I couldn't pass up the opportunity to recreate the 'presentation' tanks which it had in another photo I have of it (the only photo I actually own of a Mustang from that time period)).
 
DaveQ said:
Two versions of the Sea Mustang in Canadian colours. Assuming a small batch (say 20) to equip one squadron (803) on HMCS Magnificent from about 1950 the first paint shows the aircraft as delivered with an Extra Dark Sea Grey over Sky scheme with an early RCN roundel, the second towards the end of its service around 1955 in the later pattern. Both are schemes applied to the RCN's Sea Furies (note to self - put these on the FS Sea Fury, idiot!:kilroy:). The serial follows on from the final RCAF Mustang (9600).


DaveQ
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Now that's just cruel ... absolutely not fair .... :jump:

Indeed, as an aside, I would welcome anything you do for the FS Sea Fury. Even the standard mid-50s scheme without Korean War theatre stripes would be nice on that model!

Back to the Sea Mustang - did the wings fold? Does the WBS model's fold? I'm guessing not, since the real 44-14017 appears to have been an otherwise standard NA spec plane prior to the addition of arrestor gear and other naval gear ... but am curious.

I understand there is a USS Shangri-la included in the package. Any good shots of it?

cheers,
 
doing some looking at the Wyoming ANG site I would guess that the colors of that badge are a blue sky....white mountain with a red border and black horse. I would say the checkers on the tail are black. Now....just guessing here but the spinner looks to be painted and looking at the pics on john's link it looks to be the ame color as he sky color in the badge. Also, if you look at aircraft #22 it looks like the entire tail is painted, and there is also a PF number on the underside of the wing.
 
delta_lima said:
Now that's just cruel ... absolutely not fair .... :jump:

Indeed, as an aside, I would welcome anything you do for the FS Sea Fury. Even the standard mid-50s scheme without Korean War theatre stripes would be nice on that model!

Back to the Sea Mustang - did the wings fold? Does the WBS model's fold? I'm guessing not, since the real 44-14017 appears to have been an otherwise standard NA spec plane prior to the addition of arrestor gear and other naval gear ... but am curious.

I understand there is a USS Shangri-la included in the package. Any good shots of it?

cheers,
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DL,

Although Dave wished for the wings to have a wing fold as well, it wasn't worked in. The 'Seahorse' model is very similar to 44-14017, but unlike that original aircraft being a P-51D-5-NA, the 'Seahorse' is based off of a P-51D-30-NA (mid 1945 production scenario), so it has the late props, radios, cockpit setup, rocket stubs, etc. Also, unlike the historic Navy example, the 'Seahorse' comes loaded with amminition in the gun bays, gun sight, and the option to load bombs and rockets. The base of the rudder is also a little different. Early on in the testing of the real Navy modified P-51D-5-NA, they took a big chunk out of the base of the rudder when they likely had a longer tail hook fitted earlier on in that project. The tailhook ended up becoming shorter so that notch wasn't needed (but remained). On the 'Seahorse', I didn't include that biggest of 'notches' in the base of the rudder, but it still retains the smaller one where the holback bar is located (used for the catapult).

When we were working on the Navy P-51D 44-14017, we first approached Michael Davies about including his USS Leyte with the product, since it was the closest available model to that of the USS Shangri-La. As it turns out, Michael already had a proper model for the Shangri-La, never released, and provided it to us to use with the product. It doesn't have the detail in the textures that you might expect, as Michael was never able to get his carrier models to that point, but the model is very detailed, accurate, and the 'dazzle' paint scheme is correct to the Shangri-La for November 1944 (matches to photos from the trials), with the correct colors themselves (including 'deck stain blue').

Here are a selection of screenshots I have with the carrier:


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Thanks John - very thorough answer. Yes, from those shots, I completely see the differences in the rudder bottom profile.

I totally would have been stoked if the wings had folded - though if it was on account of historical accuracy, I completely get the rationale, in light of the "hi-fi" element of the WBS product brand.

Similarly, I was hoping the Shangri-la was sporting post-war colours - but again, I get the precise point in time for which the models were made. Part of my buy decision was around the degree to which I could make use of the included carrier for Korean War era flying - Mr Davies' beta USS Leyte didn't have lighting, so I'm assuming the Shangri-la is a bit more "complete" - it certainly looks even more detailed than the Leyte beta, and that was already a great level of work.

A few more days to contemplate - but I think my biq questions were answered - again, many kind thanks, and I hope it sells well!

DL
 
The inspiration for creating the "FJ-1D Seahorse", came after having been doing research for the historic example that actually existed, and then finding this thread about some of the fun that was being had with IL-2 and a modded P-51D with tail hook: http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=7210.0

Dave also approached me with the same idea, that it might be best to include a later 'what if' version than the historic example, which would also be armed, and would be a better basis for 'what if' paint schemes.
 
Guys,

Will you please stop doing those superb skins for this little beauty, as my poor hard drive can't take the strain!!! :icon_lol:
 
Bomber_12th said:
Dave, if you mean 44-72986, it has the same badge/emblem as seen here (Wyoming ANG): http://jetpilotoverseas.wordpress.c...amin-g-nelson-and-national-guard-pilots-1948/

I'm thinking that the circle around the emblem is red, and then the sky of course blue with white mountains and black cowboy/horse. This is the Wyoming ANG patch: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wyoming_Air_National_Guard_-_Emblem.png
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Thanks John, I'm on it!

DaveQ

PS I'll publish the Canadian ones as soon as I can, and thanks for the kind comments everyone.
 
Just got the package, should have waited until payday but I couldn't resist any longer :icon_lol:

Lovely work John, well done. :salute:
 
The two Canadian Navy paints have been put up here and at Flightsim.com. Hope you like them:salute:!

DaveQ
 
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