Convair 580 v2

[Bjoern]

Doodeedooo...

(Couldn't find any old thread about the improved model.)

For those wondering...mostly cockpit windows on the outside, basically anything else on the inside.

 

[mgchrist5]

Looking great, Bjoern. And in my favorite livery, too!

 

[strikehawk]

There a down load link?

 

[wombat666]

One of my favorite 'Classic' propliners.
Very stylish!!!!!

 

[yankeeromeo]

Yes, i'm dreaming of a CV-580 by, let's see, A2A or ...
Anyway, this plane is really missing on FSXA.
Thanks for your work.
Cheers.

 

[Bjoern]

Thanks, guys.

There a down load link?

Previous version ("FSX SP2 ..."):
http://calclassic.com/580.htm

Yes, i'm dreaming of a CV-580 by, let's see, A2A or ...
Anyway, this plane is really missing on FSXA.
Thanks for your work.

Thanks for the "thank you", but the other comment is a straight kick in the balls.

 

[stansdds]

Bjoern, will you be making the overhead panel area, currently just a static image, a functioning area?

 

[Bjoern]

I'm not too keen on redoing the starter and engine logic from the Calclassic bird for now, so the 2D starter panel will be retained. These are C++gauges which I can't decompile to see if they do any magic regarding other gauges or the flight dynamics.

As for the other subpanels, if I could decypher the stuff written on the currently used textures or find any other real world reference for them, my motivation to do them in 3D would be 200-fold. I've actually already created most of the 3D objects for the left deice panel, but the texture and labelling work has stopped me dead cold.

If I do the subpanels in 3D I can't avoid doing the rest of the gauges in 3D as well and that is something I wish to avoid for as long as possible.

Complicating it all is the fact that no two Convairs look alike...*Groan*




- Edit:

Just checked. I already have 180 drawcalls for the VC and I don't really want any more...


- Edit2:

Don't be sad though, you'll get something to play around with in the cockpit anyway. Like a working clipboard for charts or novels or similar. Or side windows that can be opened. Or...

 

[stansdds]

Sounds good!

The Convairliners, like the majority of commercial aircraft of the piston era, were pretty much custom built to the purchaser's specifications. Add to that the secondary market and the upgrades that many Convairliners underwent in order to keep them usable and it can become a real headache trying to decide on what to model. I think modern commercial aircraft are fairly well standardized when it comes to cockpit layout.

I guess you could take the easy way out, just make flat panels upon which the end user can place 2D switches, gauges, radios, etc. Not the pretty way to make a VC, but oh so adaptable.

 

[Bjoern]

I guess you could take the easy way out, just make flat panels upon which the end user can place 2D switches, gauges, radios, etc. Not the pretty way to make a VC, but oh so adaptable.

A gauge poly there can't hurt, but the question is what people are going to place there...

 

[stansdds]

A gauge poly there can't hurt, but the question is what people are going to place there...

One might have to be creative. I liked MilViz's approach with their Cessna 310R. A nice, fully 3D cockpit, but with a model that had a blank radio/avionics section in which the user could place whatever radios, GPS, or weather radar they wanted.

 

[Bjoern]

The model comes along at a glacial pace, by the way. Had to redo much of the side panels and window frames in the cockpit and GMax is really uncooperative every once in a while.

 

[Bjoern]

Oh well...

Lost half a day to convert the model for 3ds Max, but less crahsing should make for higher productivity.

 

[Firekitten]

Already looking a lot better! Keep at it I love these old birds.

 

[Bjoern]

Does anyone have an A.net premium account to get this pic in higher resolution?
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Cont...66732/L/&sid=1451c44712b72af1dd31360a92f647e1

I have a really hard time decyphering some of the labels on the left deice panel.

Below "DEICE SEQUENCE LIGHTS":
"Inlet 1"?, "Inlet 2"?, "Spinner", "CxxxS" ("Cowls"?), "Bright" and the other way around. The only thing I'm sure of is "Spinner".

Below "DEICE TIMER OVERRIDE SEL":
"DE-ICE CONTROL"
"Engine xxx x/x", "PROP & Wxxx"

This is the electrical de-ice panel powered by the 110V AC system. Structural (with bleed air), pitot and windows are covered by the one on the right side.

Also, how many amperes does each of this deice stuff normally pull? The ammeter on the alternator panel shows 110A max.



- Edit:

Figured it out.
"Inlet 1", "Inlet 2", "Spinner", "Cuffs", "Bright", etc...

"Engine Hot Air", "Prop & Inlet"

 

[Bjoern]

*ZZzzzzZZZ*

 

[stansdds]

Yep, that's what I was talking about! Wonder if we can talk Bjoern into fixing up the piston powered Convairliners too?

 

[Bjoern]

They are not my era, so no, no way.

 

[falcon409]

Excellent work there Bjoern. Coming along nicely.

 

[stansdds]

They are not my era, so no, no way.

I tried, I tried.