Flying Supersonic. Tu-144 'Charger' v3.5

I finally got the engines started!:jump: Only now the problem was that I couldn't get the nose cone to lower or the canards to extend. And how do I turn on the hydraulics for nose steering? Where is the landing gear lever? And finally, where's the parachute control?
 
Just to clarify, I have been able to lower the nose and canards before, I know where the controls are, but when I started the engines I couldn't get them to work.
 
One last thing: Because I got the engines started, even though I couldn't get the nose down or the canards to deploy, I still decided to do a take off, but when I maxed the throttle, I got a warning horn. Is it because of the nose and canards? Or something else?
 
RyanJZ said:
One last thing: Because I got the engines started, even though I couldn't get the nose down or the canards to deploy, I still decided to do a take off, but when I maxed the throttle, I got a warning horn. Is it because of the nose and canards? Or something else?
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There's not enough manuals and information in Russian and only an RLE is nothing... It doesn't teach you exactly the logic and what switch does what, just the procedures... So I have low confidence anything will be translated into english anytime soon. Also making guesses of findngs and writing manual for supersonic aircraft will never be the same as there will always be huge errors and should end up fatally.

What is canards? The nose is lowered from the pedestal, press down once to get it to middle, press down once again to the lower position.



Flaps work a bit differently too, to explain simple, when lowered, your aircraft looks like a dog. The siren that comes on is normal on Tupolev aircraft and it means your aircraft is not properly configured for takeoff, just check the indicator lights and make sure you haven't really forgotten something. As an alternative you could try model 2.5, it's easier for the beginner and has navigation system everyone can use. In Russia flying VOR to VOR with NDBs is not something I would do since the Russian system was different from american and used different non-radio based navigation capatabilities.

Did you follow the whole manual from start to takeoff and still got the siren?
 
The canard switch is in the overhead panel. You will see it, The canard switch have a big cover.
Read carefully the documentation provided...AS an advice...I usually fly this monster with the documentation in a tablet/phone....
 
I know where the controls are. I've been able to lower the nose and extend the canards before (before starting the engines) but this time I waited until after the engines started, and the nose wouldn't go down, and when I hit the switch for the canards, I hear the motor noise for them briefly, and the switch snaps back to the retracted position?
How do I turn on the hydraulics for nose steering, etc?
Also I couldn't get the attitude indicator to work? What am I missing?
vl82m, I have only seen Version 3.5 and 2.0, never a 2.5. Where can I find it?
Also just something I'm curios about, did the Russians ever have a nickname for the Tu-144?
 
2014-11-3_10-10-1-237.jpgSo last night I did manage to get the engines started, and today I couldn't. The plane has fuel, I remembered to connect the bleed air to the cabin and engine start system (thank you VL) but I was still getting that hang start again!
 
RyanJZ said:
So last night I did manage to get the engines started, and today I couldn't. The plane has fuel, I remembered to connect the bleed air to the cabin and engine start system (thank you VL) but I was still getting that hang start again!
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This is what my engineer panel looks like now. I took care of those switches underneath the engine instruments ad I'm still getting the hang start :banghead:
 
Update: I was able to get the engines started, but for some reason, once the engines are started, I can't get those nose or canard controls to work! Ugh! What am I missing??? And how do I get the gauges to turn on???
 
RyanJZ said:
Update: I was able to get the engines started, but for some reason, once the engines are started, I can't get those nose or canard controls to work! Ugh! What am I missing??? And how do I get the gauges to turn on???
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Theres a lot of issues that could be going on, so I cannot know exactly. I'm an expert on Tupolev aircraft including the 134, 154 and 204/214 but should at least be of some use. However, I suggest to watch the startup videos so that you can see step by step what is done.... then you will see procedure of the nose, and the gauges and how they are made to work. Rome wasn't built in a day, neither is a Tupolev captain.
 
Its weird though because before I knew how to start the engines, I was always able to at least turn on the battery and lower the nose and extend the canards, with the engines OFF. I know there's a steep learning curve but it just seems like when I solve one problem another arises. I don't suppose anyone on this forum has a way of getting in touch with the authors of this plane?
 
RyanJZ said:
Its weird though because before I knew how to start the engines, I was always able to at least turn on the battery and lower the nose and extend the canards, with the engines OFF. I know there's a steep learning curve but it just seems like when I solve one problem another arises. I don't suppose anyone on this forum has a way of getting in touch with the authors of this plane?
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I can get you in touch with the autors and some others, if you're really serious about learning this aircraft and investing many hours on it.

steep learning curve, yes, but i understand you, if i had only manuals with almost no information at all not speaking the language i'll be frustrated too
 
RyanJZ said:
Its weird though because before I knew how to start the engines, I was always able to at least turn on the battery and lower the nose and extend the canards, with the engines OFF. I know there's a steep learning curve but it just seems like when I solve one problem another arises. I don't suppose anyone on this forum has a way of getting in touch with the authors of this plane?
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I never had this problem...I always start and connect all systems...Try this first. Maybe, without hydraulic system or electrical system feed from engines....or without other equipment you can't deploy canards and lower the nose when engines are running.

Good luck.
 
CE_zeta, how do you turn on the hydraulics and connect the electric system feed to the engines? I can't find anything in the manual
 
VL, thanks again for the links you PM'd me, but I finally figured it out and completed my first flight! Now I just need to figure out where the trim controls are. I think figure out the trim for roll, but haven't found the elevator trim control yet. Also need to figure out how to navigate and use the autopilot!
 
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